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Why on earth would we need 30k? While in the champ at the Ricoh how many times did we have 30K+? Leeds and Chelsea in the cup are only two I can think of.

I might be wrong but I don’t think the intention of the OP was to discuss who we give a shit about them losing out. Forget all that, that’s just emotion. If we think rationally about who gains and loses, what motivations might be, it might help us understand a complex situation.

You could argue SISU benefit as it has galvanised the fan base against wasps and the council. Just saying... This is why moving forward on a new stadium is essential. If it’s just PR it will backfire eventually.

Agreed, or at least I hope it isn’t.

Maybe take your entitlement to the bank and see how much money they give you for the stadium. Deserve has nothing to do with it.

Yes it was. Still not racism.

History suggests that a solution at the Ricoh is impossible, yes. Even if we went back there we will have all the same issues. There could be a fallout, we don’t get a fair share of food and beverage, the pitch will always be crap etc. It fundamentally does not work. The closest thing to a...

Exactly, this is key. We are in this predicament because the club could not afford to build the Ricoh.

The alternative is playing in Brum or renting from wasps. We are not in a position to demand perfection, we certainly don’t have the money to pay for it.

Racism isn’t just about colour of skin. Some races just happen to have different skin tones.

I can’t believe people think we’re in a position to worry about quality. Fuck me. This is precisely the reason the Ricoh project went out of control.

Do you not realise that somebody blushing is not the same as race?

It’s not white people, most just happen to be white and it’s not tarring all white people with the same characteristic, it’s referring to a specific subset who are that way by choice rather than genetics. It is rude and childish. It is not racism by any definition. And nobody is saying...

I would take 15,000 temporary seats and the concourses being food and drinks vans from local businesses at this point as long as it was ours and could be expanded and improved as money allows.

There won’t be any money earmarked it will need to be financed somehow and this would be done on returns from the asset.

Skin which changes due to absurdly angry reactions. It’s nothing to do with race. I can’t understand how this needs explaining.

What is concerning me currently is there still doesn’t quite seem to be acceptance that we are in this for the long haul and as such solutions and measures are either not robust enough or short term in thinking. The narrative still seems to be get cases down a bit then we can start to go back...

I am starting to wonder if asking questions is just going to result in them telling us what we want to hear. Maybe it would be better to just create the situation for dialogue and see what they say and commit to?

Is there a dedicated project team for this yet, both within SISU/club and the uni? Does this project rest on the outcome from the EU case or is it going ahead anyway? Is there a plan in place for financing and if so how does that affect ownership and income from the stadium?

I’m guessing it will be cut back to the point of being pointless like most things we try and do in this country.