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Was he? He was off the pace but I think it was clear he had talent.

Great read. Not sure why people are surprised about Meyler. Doyle would have been a big loss mentality and he filled that void I think.

Yes. Nobody is really disputing that are they? But it’s SISU bringing the case and SISU getting the blame for doing so. There’s a difference between being in the right, morally or legally, and all parties being on-board with the result.

I think that convo probably takes us back to when people knew about the EU complaint. Wasn’t the accusation that all legal action was dropped then the EU case turned up? Then there was/is all the stuff about the EU case being legal action etc... ....and eventually to shmeeeees point earlier...

Well the councils actions, yes, but SISU dogged pursuit of the situation that would have brought it about. To me the fact the council are so behind wasps suggests there is something to find or at least they are worried it could be perceived that way.

Correct. And they don’t want that to happen so will keep asking to be protected against it. I assume that they expect SISU to cover the cost and anything they’d have to pay back.

Yes but essentially wasps want to be guaranteed from any future harm from any case. SISU, understandably, consider this unreasonable. However, as Boddy said, that’s the same situation as last year so maybe the pertinent question is how we ended up in talks again. I’m sure we’ll never know.

Morally and ethically yes. Doesn’t mean wasps don’t want to prevent that.

So the risk of having us as tenants is greater, whether due to the EU action or something else.

This is all sounds very plausible. I hope we somehow manage a build at the uni but in financing it there a risk of a not too dissimilar situation arising in the future.

Hard to disagree with any of this. What I don’t get is what either side hope to achieve. I can’t see SISU getting control of the Ricoh and it seems unlikely rent from the club is going to enough money to save wasps but what do I know. Like a football club they’ll probably just keep restructuring...

I don’t disagree with you but he is contradicting himself by saying they won’t do a deal while they can be “sued” and that the club randomly pulled out. It is easy for us as fans to be biased so I think you make some valid points regarding how people are very loosely using legal terms and that...

Yeah he’s actually pretty quick just isn’t the best technically so not quick with the ball at his feet. He’s like Tyrone from Lock Stock, “he can move when he wants to”

I used to think this is what’s needed to be compatible in the championship. However, now I’m not so sure. If everyone is doing that maybe we shouldn’t try and emulate them but do our own thing rather than compete for the same players. Maybe we can build on the ethos from last season of being a...

Thanks for sharing Nick. Very interesting. All very well saying vote them out but it never seems to happen, or maybe the issues are too entrenched and there are just too many in the council who have the same view? Maybe we can launch some kind of guerrilla campaign to help, a la Led by Donkeys...

I’m sure they won’t waive it. Will just say something like “it’s a legal process and can’t just be disregarded blah blah” and tbf SISU probably know they won’t waive it so have nothing to lose by saying they are happy to waive. It might mean wasps have something to hide but who knows.

I think this has been obvious for some time. Even if the relationship improved renting is never going to be ideal and the pitch is always going to be wrecked by rugby. You can hope that wasps go bust but that might never happen, they’ll probably be saved by some rich idiot. Even if they did go...

I’m leaning to the same way of thinking. Club needs and deserves the support.

Not really adding anything others haven't already said but very pleased with Hamer, looks class, just need to be careful he doesn't pick up too many yellows. Giles looks like he will do a job on the left. O'hare still O'hare and really pleased we have him, would have missed that intensity...

Great shout, thanks.