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    So now we know

    Feel like somebody would have spotted this by now but if it’s through a couple of layers of funds it wouldn’t be obvious. If that’s the case though there’s every chance it’s accidental and it probably wouldn’t be enough to affect anything as any fund would be split amongst loads of bonds. I’d...
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    Yeah good point. I’ve never though wasps did anything wrong legally they just looked after their own interests. As you say though they are harmed against any action against the council so like I said above this way they protect themselves while being able to say they haven’t asked for protection...
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    This is one of the things that really bothers me and for which I’m struggling to see a rational explanation.
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    It’s worth somebody asking for their thoughts. It’s also well worth (as somebody did) contacting local MPs and getting them to ask questions of the council.
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    I guess what I am saying Nick is I think they would have gotten away with that shit anyway, why the effort to spin it and hide things. Maybe it is as simple as trying to smooth things out and I’m over thinking it.
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    Why the need for PR then? Bringing money into the city is PR in itself. Why try to turn fans against SISU? If wasps bring these benefits there’s no need to justify their actions. It might just be they wanted public opinion on their side but as half the city doesn’t care about the club and most...
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    Yeah but why? I’m not doubting they appear to have done some odd things but why?
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    I hope people like Gilbert come and read this thread as it will give them food for thought.
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    What does balls deep really mean though? It still implies they threw their lot in and now don’t want to look bad but to me that doesn’t justify their actions over the last few years. This is where it does feel a bit “conspiracy theory” in that I can’t see a rational explanation for how hard CCC...
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    That’s a fair point. Could it be that by saying “no action against the council” wasps are protecting themselves while also able to say they are not protected specifically by the indemnity? If so, some of their recent comments seem to have dropped the council in it as they imply it’s because of...
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    I speculated above that wasps will think (or have been told by somebody in government) that the EU case wouldn’t be enforced. Their issue could be the lease being binned off, from which they would be protected by the council insisting no future legal action is taken. I can’t see quite why the...
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    Perhaps why wasps don’t need an indemnity, they’ve had assurances any ruling wouldn’t be fulfilled? But the outcome would still provide justification for future legal cases, even if the “punishment” had not been implemented.
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    Hard to say without knowing more about the indemnity. If wasps are satisfied not having an indemnity for them then they must either think the state aid thing won’t be an issue or they have accepted it will but are more concerned with other consequences which would arise from any legal action...
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    Ah so it wouldn’t stop a theoretical resolution which resulted in which wasps paid money to the council but would stop SISU pursuing a separate claim later on? If so the implication from the notion that it would threaten the club is the club isn’t financially viable long term if it doesn’t get...
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    Why is it clearly not the state aid indemnity?
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    Request to waive NDA - email to Wasps, CCFC & Sisu

    Maybe they don’t but whatever is in the indemnity implicitly protects them while they can conveniently deny being involved with it?
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    Request to waive NDA - email to Wasps, CCFC & Sisu

    Would there have been any expectation that the indemnity would be dropped? Does add up though as Boddy also said “same issues as last year”
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    Why would wasps insist on an indemnity to protect the council? Particularly when it is against their interests for talks to fail as they could use the money?
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    Would it even be legal for the council to strong arm wasps into holding us hostage in order to grant them protection from legal processes? If it is it seems it would at least be unethical and against the code of conduct for elected officials. If so then you’d think there would be a route of...
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    Request to waive NDA - email to Wasps, CCFC & Sisu

    If talks failed due to the indemnity why did Boddy say it was because wasps timed them out? Is this all consistent? Could they have been trying to come up with some kind of work around which wasps then stalled on? Gilbert seems to be doing alright on this tbf.
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