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If you think it was only a 3yr purple patch in the late 70s that’s pretty daft, Clough was almost bigger than the club itself and elevated them massively.

Success & tradition = good support that sticks with them.. it’s not rocket science

Pink and brown? I saw one that was pink & dark blue Pink and brown would be a challenging mix to pull off 😆

It’s a very poor argument, Huddersfield won titles before WW2 and then… Forest will have a big number of people still alive & very much kicking who were there when they were winning European cups, league titles, league cups- they saw it, experienced it, felt it- that takes time to die away...

Exactly what I’m saying It’s the truth.

So have I, but we are.. we’ll “proper” fans I guess. It’s not the kind of success that will suddenly find 5-10k new fans, which is the kind of success/ good times that most other clubs in our sort of bracket have had.

Hey it’s fine to disagree, what it’s all about 👍 The reason Forest have expectations is that it’s in their DNA to have expectations, and that comes from their history, their pride. It’s in our DNA to fear/ expect the worst and to be let down.

Exactly. You can’t look at “across history” because things have changed so much. We have had zero expectation until now and even now it’s tempered with a lot of cynicism. Your average Cov fan is way, way, way more cynical than your average of most other clubs. We don’t really have any “good...

Like I said, takes time. We have zero tradition and zero history compared to many clubs, and the clubs like us have invariably gone to the Prem so they’ve had that benefit. We’ve had nothing, zilch. Our only success has been in a trophy most of us would have laughed at at one stage, and to get...

Most clubs had a boom- Southampton went from 15k to 30k, Leicester found 10k new fans, Norwich exploded- loads of clubs experienced similar. The Ricoh was supposed to be our ticket to the same but we fucked it all up. Now we’re starting to see our upturn- 10k season tickets is great for now...

If catchment was the only factor then Ipswich would get crowds 60% ours, clearly they don’t.

The entire population of Suffolk is 300k less that that of Cov and Warwickshire, but yet Platf was pointing out they can pull in 20k no matter what? Comes from tradition, history, pride etc. Ours was ripped to pieces but it’s coming back.

No he’s right. When you have something to fight for every single season that’s obviously going to attract people. Aiming to come 17th every season creates apathy and mediocrity, we still haven’t shaken that yet- but it’s happening and you can see it happening eg in our brilliant away...

Not so otherwise Burnley would have about 2,000 fans. But their history and tradition means they kept their support and while they’re never gonna be a Man Utd, for the size of the town they have amazing support.

Exactly- on the money again Being a yo-yo club increases support

Again, spot on. Your point about us being a unique club in many ways is very perceptive imho 👍

Ipswich is not big enough to attract 20k every week, that comes from history and tradition.

You are spot on. Comparing us to teams who’ve won all sorts and have not had anything like the run of shite that we have is an interesting concept indeed.

Again, look at their history, you might not like it but Nottingham Forest are a much bigger name than us, and you can’t just erase their achievements as they weren’t last year. It takes time to get that ‘tradition’ and Forest have it, we don’t.

Ipswich have the whole Bobby Robson thing plus the league championship which is engrained into their fans, again things we don’t have. They’re really well supported for where they are based tbh, I wouldn’t class them as a small club. We’re potentially bigger but potential is very different to...