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So just to be clear.... You believe that when "rent" was discussed "everybody" thought we were actually talking about rent plus operating costs plus rates.

As I recall almost half of the difference was rates. Most businesses have to pay rates. How many other SISU businesses have been given exemptions from rates I wonder?

And/or with a fitness coach! Been a big improvement in fitness since he came back.

Great result! Well done to manager, players and fans!

You and me both!

Elliott will :)

Go outside for a few minutes to put our various animals " to bed" and when I get back we've scored 2 more! ;)

Get in there!!!

Afraid so :(

I think you'll find that the bulk of their "investment" has come post acquisition.

Couldn't agree more. It's important to have the money, but it's equally important to use it sensibly.

Funny, that's what I keep saying about the value of the football club when people keep saying it would cost £30/40/50m to buy it because "that's what SISU put in ".

The fact they haven't publicly rubbished the claim says that they didn't attend the same charm school as TF :)

The context of the debate was around the balance between buying and selling players and whether our current position was the same as it had been for the last 40 years. I'd agree that we signed a good number of players at the start of this season, but with the exception of Barton (believe it...

I'll try to be a little more specific for you then. When SISU came in they had a plan. It involved buying young players who could improve the club and who would probably then be sold on at (hopefully) a profit. It appears that you didn't notice when this plan changed. It was about the time...

As I recall we used to buy as well as sell. We bought Wallace, Gibson, Gillespie, Gallagher, Keane, Dublin and Huckerby. Spot the difference?

Hmmmmmm. If you care to retread the thread you might see that I was trying to highlight the fact that MMM's points had been sidestepped - what you might perhaps refer to as narrowing the criteria. That'll teach me to be subtle......

I was just offered a choice of upper or lower tier over the phone.

So given your response, I assume that you don't remember us being "dragged through the courts" or being relegated to division 3 either.

Don't remember being "dragged through the courts" or being in the third division with any of those other owners in the last 30 years.