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Conjure up the image of Andy Whing arms out running past all those sky blue supporters arms. A iconic photo. Fast forward to now and the final goal at the Ricoh and Carl Baker runs past a bank of sky blue seats and accidently clips a lone 82 year old suffering from hypothermia.

This could be the longest rally ever. I wish the squad was a bit smaller.

Thanks for that. This is why my opnion on the council in this whole mess isnt very good unless someone can explain otherwise. Short term loan for a lot of behind the scenes power and land development potential for the future with no risk to them. Very clever but I keep hearing this protect the...

How old is Barton?

Sorry if Im being thick but this is something I have wanted clarity on for a while. Correct me if this is crap but I thought the Council loaned (I could look it up but cant be arsed so forgive me if it slightly out) approx £20M and ACL Ltd (a limited independent company) took out a mortgage...

I turned on the radio a few days agp and caught the end of an interview where is was stated (didn't hear who was being interviewed but it wasn't Fisher) it has cost the club roughly £40M since we moved to the Ricoh. Tim Fisher stated in the paper that we have paid many millions subsidising...

With whats going on its probably best they suspend the idea for now. They would get a lot of stick if they sold some and then a week later they weren't worth anything. For the sake of a few weeks its better to pull the plug. Hopefully if this is all sorted they will bring the offer back.

If something cost me £20 to make and I wanted to sell it to you for £110 you'd say it was a rip off. There is no difference here. Everyone needs to make a profit and ACL are no different but the kind of margin they seem to want to make is not sustainable.

SISU tried to cut our cloth accordingly but trying to live within our means got us relegated. Now here we are again. At the moment SISU are putting in more money than we are making but if we cant get this rent down then they will cut the cloth again and we will be in league 2 before we know it.

But is the 400k they've turned down rent and match day costs combined or have they offered 400k rent but they've still got to pay match day costs? If its combined I think its about right and I'm not sure they will do much better.

Wasn't this guy waffling on CWR tonight. Sounded like he was chairman of the board and a bit of a dick.

That's how we got into this mess with over spending

Am I right in saying this is match day running costs at £10k per match plus £150k rent so approx £400k total? If this is the case I'd say that seemed a fair level but what do I know.

Yes but when I said ripped off I meant when they want £1.2M. There is a big difference between £250k at approx £10k per match which I would agree is not enough rent for this ground and for ACL to make a decent profit and £1.2M. £1.2M is worse than being ripped off. I was being overly polite.

You might think I'm some sort of wind up merchant but I'm just trying to get my head around it and I can't find an actual statement from the club or ACL of what this last offer actually was. Was there a statement made and I just can't find it?

Don't hold back will you. I thought the offer was 50%. This I now realise was the old offer and now its a reduced offer of 33%. Where does the pathetic bit come in? You obviously want us to keep paying a price we cant afford and also therefore not compete in this league. You are a...

So you are saying their latest offer is worse than the offer they turned down in August? Wow, they must really want to do a deal. Tbh I thought it was other way round but yes you are correct.

Sorry I thought this was a forum and facts were purely optional.

We've got more supporter groups than ABBA. As long as they do a monthly fanzine then I'm okay with it.

If in my business Im going to lose an important customer I do all I can to keep them. If that means my profits are drastically reduced but I keep some profit and enough turnover to warrant the deal then that's what I'll do rather than get nothing. ACL are just cutting their nose off and its...