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  1. oldskyblue58

    Planning application for Higgs submitted by Wasps

    Just to clarify and amend AEHC have a charge over the property which secures community use, CCC own the freehold, AHCT owned the 150 year lease now assigned to CAWAT, CAWAT now own the Alan Higgs Centre and CSF operate the Alan Higgs Centre,
  2. oldskyblue58

    Planning application for Higgs submitted by Wasps

    We continue to arrange the challenges to all sides, demonstrate if necessary, but at the same time somebody like the SBT needs to "mediate" to get the decision makers at the Alan Higgs Centre to talk and see what can be agreed to safeguard the CCFC academy At no point did I say give up and at...
  3. oldskyblue58

    Planning application for Higgs submitted by Wasps

    I know the detail of the planning application was filed yesterday but the general outline was contained in Charge & Covenant registered on CAWAT when they took the site over 17/03/2016. That charge was filed and became public knowledge 18/03/2016. CCC own the freehold, AHCT owned the 150 year...
  4. oldskyblue58

    Academy Protest Idea's

    Objects of the Charity (from Charity Commission website) THE COMPANY IS ESTABLISHED FOR PROVIDING OR ASSISTING IN THE PROVISION OF FACILITIES FOR RECREATION, PHYSICAL EDUCATION OR OTHER LEISURE-TIME OCCUPATION IN OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITY OF COVENTRY AND ITS NEIGHBOURHOOD. not sure where...
  5. oldskyblue58

    Trust statement regarding the AHC

    I think you will find that the Higgs is still there and operating pretty much as before. It may have a swimming pool in due course. It will still be a community sports centre Wasps will use and have access to certain parts but those parts will still have community use. That will include a...
  6. oldskyblue58

    CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored

    You don't think CA's words could have been more measured and to the point? Actually put CSF on the spot because that article hasnt
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    CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored

    Trouble is after years of confrontation it is hard on either side to stand back and offer partnership and for that to be viewed without suspicion. There is no trust between these parties and the club and that's in equal measure either way you look at it. CA I am sure is trying on the one hand to...
  8. oldskyblue58

    CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored

    I think whilst CCC didn't have an alternative they thought they needed to be at least appear to be a little more conciliatory. That was the same for other organisations too However now there is an alternative, CCC and others are saying we don't want or don't need the aggro/problems, then are...
  9. oldskyblue58

    CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored

    Question does a landlord have to give notice when a lease terminates at a fixed point in time? Paul Breed "exploring options" 19/05/2016 today is 01/06/2016 and two letters in last two weeks. Cant help thinking this is far too important to have waited so long in the first place let alone...
  10. oldskyblue58

    CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored

    Actually that's not the bit I find most troubling When were they talking about a long term deal though?
  11. oldskyblue58

    CA: Lease Extension At Higgs Ignored

    Very worrying. Almost certainly the Academy is gone from the Higgs next June. Also worrying is that it comes across that they were not aware, that the club are panicked by the outcome and the implication that the entire club might end up outside of Coventry.
  12. oldskyblue58

    Trust statement regarding the AHC

    My personal take on it is The Charity is making a clean break from dealing with everything related to CCFC. They have basically washed their hands of it but secured their assets. There is nothing that says they must help, support or back CCFC and from their perspective the involvement in the...
  13. oldskyblue58

    Trust statement regarding the AHC

    Good statement from the Trust Can't help thinking that this is a done deal though and it has been for some time. It is not certain that there will be a pool there, it will depend on getting the funding, but it is certain I feel that the needs of CCFC Academy are well down the list of priorities...
  14. oldskyblue58

    SISU/ARVO appeal turned down

    It cost Bournemouth 45m in losses and FFP penalty to get out of the Championship. For the foreseeable future we don't have owners that would fund that even £5m annual losses. 2015 they lost 30m + year before £10m The wages in 2015 were 2.5 times the turnover and 1.7 times the previous year...
  15. oldskyblue58

    As It Stands

    Interesting that this thread aimed at CCFC became a discussion of Wasps again. Not really done much detailed checking on their finances, so had a look at the accounts. Firstly at what point did I say there was no risk. I said I didn't think Wasps had a problem as it stands . Their accounts...
  16. oldskyblue58

    As It Stands

    Wouldn't disagree that there is an element of window dressing. But as it stands - which is the title of the thread - CRFC have not got their act together and on the back of a disappointing season do not represent a significant threat now. However Wasps and the potential development of BPA has...
  17. oldskyblue58

    As It Stands

    Last time TF gave a figure he estimated it was worth 5m to 6m. Trouble is that would I feel get swallowed up in wages. What it wouldn't do is leave funds to buy in players. It wouldn't also all arrive at the start of the year. Given the size of the budgets of the clubs in the Championship I...
  18. oldskyblue58

    SCG meeting questions

    Would that be before or after the court case over the planning? Seriously though yes if the best option is to leave the Ricoh the fans should challenge CCC. Personally at this stage I do not know what the best option is
  19. oldskyblue58

    Revenues blah blah blah !

    I have some sympathy with the direction of the OP. As a marketing exercise CCFC has been pretty poor. There were things that could have been done but - some got lost in not giving ACL/Wasps a penny more - there was never the finance made available - there is simply not enough staff - the...
  20. oldskyblue58

    As It Stands

    Considered opinion as always duffer Wasn't saying that Wasps were not a risk to CRFC only that Wasps were not making them a target. I doubt that Wasps really see CRFC as competition right now. Part of the point I was making was that despite the perceived threat etc the two are prepared to work...
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