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  1. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    but its not a Thursday!! how dare they mess with the order of things :jawdrop:
  2. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    According to the CT the deadline for an appeal on the JR1 is 4pm today
  3. oldskyblue58

    Interesting Tweets from Kieren Crowley

    Come on Nick. Of course it was all about Wasps getting 100%. They wouldn't come here without getting control and do you honestly see either Wasps or SISU wanting to partner up? That's what I mean about ducks in a row, there was a process to get round potential problems to Wasps getting 100%...
  4. oldskyblue58

    Ricoh Talks Failing and Butts More Attractive

    having looked at the article again (btw I think Reid's opinion piece is better and one of his better articles - don't agree with all of it but still not a bad report) Moving to the Butts. Feels to me that it is eggs in one basket. The Butts move has to happen because clearly the negotiations...
  5. oldskyblue58

    Interesting Tweets from Kieren Crowley

    could have given them 5 options Nick. The ducks were already in a row as far as the deal was concerned. Did CCFC have detailed plans to back the offer up, looking at it from the Charity stand point even without the veto what entices them away from what they already have on the table?. Either...
  6. oldskyblue58

    Interesting Tweets from Kieren Crowley

    All very interesting but to what purpose nearly 2 years after the event. Why would he have seen it yesterday? Adding 25k isn't really going to test the resolve of the Charity on a £2.77m deal with extras. Putting in a condition of independent valuation makes the offer conditional. From the...
  7. oldskyblue58

    Ricoh Talks Failing and Butts More Attractive

    really worry about the future of the Academy but also of CRFC in all this CCFC will come out of this battered and bruised but I am pretty confident about its survival I also think we are in for new and yet more legal cases down the line
  8. oldskyblue58

    Ricoh Talks Failing and Butts More Attractive

    certainly seems to be the picture being painted and well timed
  9. oldskyblue58

    Ricoh Talks Failing and Butts More Attractive

    Does this all tie in with everything at the club being for 2 years? If so that's either a very tight time scale to get it all done or leaves a period of limbo where we are going back to Wasps to stay a bit longer - but no incentive for wasps to improve terms at all. I think that the article...
  10. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    or would you take your chance in ACL being liquidated and get a different set up entirely ....... being the only game in town, it being CCFC hometown etc The restructuring was both IEC was set up and overheads were cut, staff let go. Drive to obtain more and different income streams etc Bank...
  11. oldskyblue58

    Ricoh Talks Failing and Butts More Attractive

    wonder if Wasps have also said stop the legal challenges before we talk about a long term deal? Cant actually access the interview yet on Observer for some reason Looks like rather than coming together there is a hardening of attitudes going on. All our eggs in one basket or just bargaining?
  12. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    wrong but from what I have seen not illegal
  13. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    I would expect such a clause was included CD but like I said administration does not immediately mean the Freeholder snatches the lease back (on any commercial lease)
  14. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    Only thoughts........ in theory to bid on ACL you would be buying the other debts too and the shares would have sold for £1. But as investors and owners CCC & AEHC didn't have to choose that path and if they were aware of other tangible interest had other options. It would have meant the...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Butts park arena?

    Cheers :) , looks like that works better than the other two? More external room left
  16. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    The CCFC lease didn't revert back to ACL until it was disclaimed by the liquidator. Administration is an insolvency event yes but the courts wont enact any related reclaim clause if there is a possibility of selling the company. Once there is no such possibility or reason to keep the company...
  17. oldskyblue58

    Butts park arena?

    Chiefdave - I haven't got the photo shop thing (or skills) but how does the Bournemouth ground fit/look superimposed on the BPA? That's a planned similar sort of size to the start capacity Think we have to account for the external walkways though ...... people, supplies etc need to have good...
  18. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    The lease would still have been owned by ACL and if the administrator sold it then the proceeds would be applied to repaying creditors If a liquidator broke the lease (other than the landlord the only one that can in insolvency) then any subsequent lease would be an entirely new one with no...
  19. oldskyblue58

    FOI

    http://www.coventry.gov.uk/foi there you go NW this help? Type in Wasps and it tells you the FOI's received and the responses
  20. oldskyblue58

    Butts park arena?

    Just for information A little out of date (2004) but this article discusses build costs and construction of stadia. The tables give an example of build costs for a 25000 seater broken down into elements. Doesn't include the cost of dropping the pitch level below ground level. from what I can...
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