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PVA

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Exactly. Either he shook hands which is irresponsible, or he didn't shake hands but told everyone he did, which is arguably even more irresponsible.

Either way, it's not a good look.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m making mug cakes and getting fatter
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I'm reading about some of the people who recovered, there are some wonderful stories coming out now if you avoid the usual news sources.

We are living in a great big pile of shit right now, but there is always some hope and as we go through this more will emerge.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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David O'Day said:
Only they were, pandemic planning was be on going for a decade.

This the NHS is properly funded line is bizarre even for you
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This pandemic is a respiratory pandemic and has left all of the west unprepared
 
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PVA

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Ian1779 said:
He got Brexit done though... apparently it blinds the populous to the fact he’s absolutely full of shit.
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Indeed. Turns out a few soundbites and being funny on HIGNFY aren't important qualities when leading the country through a crisis.
 
fernandopartridge

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Ring Of Steel said:
SARS and Swine flu (ARDS) were also respiratory pandemics.
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Yep, and I know for a fact that the NHS did some really specific preparation for those, when I worked at a Trust in 2014/15 they still had a load of specially purchased PPE for Swine flu, of course 2009 was back when the NHS had a funding settlement that covered its cost of treating people.
 
Johnnythespider

Johnnythespider

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skybluetony176 said:
Get well soon Boris. I hope you get the full NHS treatment. Stuck on a trolley in a corridor for 14 hours just like my dear old gran had to the day before she died, I hope you only get treated by NHS professionals who are pikaninis with watermelon smiles and bin bags as substitutes for PPE, if not I hope they’re from the EU working here under freedom of movement, I hope you’re served sub standard lukewarm food because that’s what the budget dictates and what I really hope is that (aside from getting better) you learn something from this experience.
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This is like tag team wrestling, Tony in for PVA who "stuck" to his guns magnificently, i expect to see Dom in for a tiring Grendel any minute.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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David O'Day said:
Only they were, pandemic planning was be on going for a decade.

This the NHS is properly funded line is bizarre even for you
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We were told to build redundancy into the NHS in order to deal with such a pandemic years ago.
We were warned after the pandemic excersise in 2016 we weren't prepared..
Any one saying no one could see this coming is ignoring the truth.
If we had made some preparation but were caught out by the scale of it I could accept that but we ignored the warnings and now we're paying for it.

Pointing at foreign governments who've performed just as woefully doesn't excuse ours.
 
Johnnythespider

Johnnythespider

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Ring Of Steel said:
I didn't even believe Johnson, and I said that publicly on here so its right that I also say publicly on here that I was wrong.

I don't see anyone wishing the man dead, unless I've missed that bit. However I hope he sees first hand the calibre of the people that are caring for him just now and thinks twice before fucking them all over once he's back in his office and awards them an appropriate wage to live on- wiping out some of the massive debts some of them have might be a good start bearing in mind what they're doing- we are only under capacity due to huge sums of money being thrown at it. And yet they still don't have the PPE they need. We have let them down. And I also hope that once recovered he reflects that maybe making silly throwaway comments about shaking peoples' hands knowing millions were watching was stupidity. This does not equate to wishing death on someone, nowhere close. Nor does pointing out that massive mistakes have been made- they have- whats this about buying millions of tests only to discover they're the wrong tests?

I didn't see this level of outrage when bus drivers, nurses and essential workers passed away, only arguments about whether the figures were fudged- at this point its impossible to even talk about COVID19 without death hanging in the air, so before it all gets too bitter & twisted with people saying "you want him dead" and that type of sick bullshit, so I will go crunch some numbers and drink tea.
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Me too, i was suspicious when it was announced, clearly i was wrong and i wish him the best with his illness
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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clint van damme said:
We were told to build redundancy into the NHS in order to deal with such a pandemic years ago.
We were warned after the pandemic excersise in 2016 we weren't prepared..
Any one saying no one could see this coming is ignoring the truth.
If we had made some preparation but were caught out by the scale of it I could accept that but we ignored the warnings and now we're paying for it.

Pointing at foreign governments who've performed just as woefully doesn't excuse ours.
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It's grenners though innit, if he stunned his toe he would blame the eu

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skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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clint van damme said:
We were told to build redundancy into the NHS in order to deal with such a pandemic years ago.
We were warned after the pandemic excersise in 2016 we weren't prepared..
Any one saying no one could see this coming is ignoring the truth.
If we had made some preparation but were caught out by the scale of it I could accept that but we ignored the warnings and now we're paying for it.

Pointing at foreign governments who've performed just as woefully doesn't excuse ours.
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Yeah but would you rather live in Italy...
 
Colin Steins Smile

Colin Steins Smile

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Having spoken to my son who is a frontline doctor dealing with Covid19. It really struck home the seriousness of the infection. He is seeing patients die that have previously been fit and well and the time it takes to stabilise people is long........and some are not responding to ventilation, so leaving the medics with a decision to remove it and watch them die, as there is not prospect to recover.
Additionally they've lost a nurse who was working on the Covid wards and needed ventilating.
As medics they are used to getting positive outcomes and this is hitting moral.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Colin Steins Smile said:
Having spoken to my son who is a frontline doctor dealing with Covid19. It really struck home the seriousness of the infection. He is seeing patients die that have previously been fit and well and the time it takes to stabilise people is long........and some are not responding to ventilation, so leaving the medics with a decision to remove it and watch them die, as there is not prospect to recover.
Additionally they've lost a nurse who was working on the Covid wards and needed ventilating.
As medics they are used to getting positive outcomes and this is hitting moral.
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All I can say to you, which is not much but very much meant, is please give your son massive massive best wishes and thank him. I don't think anyone will forget what him & his colleagues are doing.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Colin Steins Smile said:
Having spoken to my son who is a frontline doctor dealing with Covid19. It really struck home the seriousness of the infection. He is seeing patients die that have previously been fit and well and the time it takes to stabilise people is long........and some are not responding to ventilation, so leaving the medics with a decision to remove it and watch them die, as there is not prospect to recover.
Additionally they've lost a nurse who was working on the Covid wards and needed ventilating.
As medics they are used to getting positive outcomes and this is hitting moral.
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Never thought of that aspect of it. How losing an abnormal number of patients would hit morale. Must be horrendous.
But ultimately the situation would be a lot worse without their efforts.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Getting a bit tired of seeing football players getting all the moral outrage and being asked to take a pay cut, therefore reducing PAYE and reducing potential NHS funding at this time. Why don't they limit abnormal stockmarket gains for 3 months, thereby stopping people profiting from COVID19 and sucking money from public to private, and have a serious look at the bailout requests by huge corporations before going nuts about football players, what good is that going to do apart from make a few holier-than-thou people feel better about themselves.
 
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