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Why can't Sisu accept a temp rent deal (1 Viewer)
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Ian1779
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At Ricoh they got ticket sales, pitch side sponsorship and 1 section of the car parking. That was it. Everything else went to ACL. It's not necessarily about what they get at Sixfields, but more about what they didn't get at Ricoh.
That's not to mention all the other non- matchday revenue that they wanted to get a part of.
This is what they want. I daresay that if ACL gave them it as part of a long term deal at the Ricoh - they would probably accept it.
The problem is ACL - not in terms of blame but their actual existence. It may be sensible of SISU to buy out ACL but I don't think that could ever happen.
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limoncello
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The former England wicket keeper? Help me out here Jack, I'm floundering.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Why? Is it because it's sensible?
Ian1779
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I guess we wouldn't have this whole issue if who owns what if they bought the whole bloody lot. Can I see the council selling it... Not a chance.
James Smith
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Which is why it is so bizarre that they didn't purchase the Higgs share when they came in. Get that half and then maybe a few years down the line when you've shown yourselves to be a suitable bunch get the council half as well. See post 164 in the Private eye thread for more.
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Jack Griffin
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No he's dead.
OK, back to the point, I was asking if the poster was someone who has access to the media through an occasional column in the Cov Telegraph, one that supports a line similar to Rob Stevens & Les Reid, and one which is better for SISU. Other people who seem to have access to the media like Stuart Linnell, Rob Stevens & Simon Gilbert are open about their identities in this forum as is PKWH and Micheal Orton.
And I'm staying anonymous ;-)
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Grendel
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What of a condition of accepting the "deal" was dropping the JR?
Grendel
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You are that man who sticks his head through doors yelling "here's Jonny" aren't you Jack?
skybluetony176
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Was that a condition of the rent offer through the FL then? I'm sure if it was ML wouldn't have been able to contain himself with that one so I think it's safe to assume it wasn't.
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limoncello
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But you didn't just ask if he was Ian Blogs, did you? You speculatively linked to a fairly pro-Sisu article. Why? Perhaps hoping to weaken Ian's declared impartiality? Bit sneaky if you ask me.
RoboCCFC90
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Question: Why can't Sisu accept a temp rent deal?
Answer: They don't want to rent a Stadium.
I can't see how that is so hard to understand frankly.
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Answer: They don't want to rent a Stadium.
I can't see how that is so hard to understand frankly.
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duffer
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They're renting one now. And the net cost is far higher than the Ricoh. So again, why don't they want to move back, even temporarily?
But that's exactly what they've done , at considerable indirect cost.
RoboCCFC90
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They have no alternative to renting at Sixfields, they obviously feel there is an alternative to the Ricoh.
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Snap......
RoboCCFC90
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They're willing to cover the costs, someone explain to me why we are going over this for the millionth time?
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DazzleTommyDazzle
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So they're prepared to effectively turn away 80% - 90% of their "customer base" because "they don't want to rent a stadium".
Got to be honest - I find that impossible to understand.
duffer
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Ah no, I think I've grasped it just fine thanks. It's just a bit funny how it wasn't an issue for so long, and then suddenly became an issue, and then it wasn't just access to the revenue but the freehold too.
I think you haven't grasped the original question. Why can't they accept a "temporary" rent deal at the Ricoh?
It's not like they'll be getting lots of F &B or parking revenue at NTFC at the moment, is it.
RoboCCFC90
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7 years of Sisu and this is the first part of their business decisions and timing that you fail to understand?
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Mr T - Sukka!
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£1.2M rent is far too high for a L1 club, blah blah blah.
But £1.8M CCFC have to pay in intrest fee's to AVRO is no problem whatsoever?
Why do they contradict themselves with no challenge?
Why does this question never get asked?
But £1.8M CCFC have to pay in intrest fee's to AVRO is no problem whatsoever?
Why do they contradict themselves with no challenge?
Why does this question never get asked?
Ultimately It's costing the club ,in terms of fans ,player retention /recruitment ,competitive status ,to make what point?
duffer
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Indeed, the alternative is renting at Sixfields. C'mon Rob, out with it, why won't they rent the Ricoh?
I can't see how it's so easy to accept the frankly pathetic argument of 'they just don't want to, OK'.
Grendel
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One can safely assume sisu believe they will win the JR and they will claim sufficient damaged to make their stance worthwhile.
One would also assume the cheap rent / increased match day costs deal either was offered on the basis the JR was dropped or their legal advisors said accepting the deal would compromise the case.
Its hardly difficult.
One would also assume the cheap rent / increased match day costs deal either was offered on the basis the JR was dropped or their legal advisors said accepting the deal would compromise the case.
Its hardly difficult.
The very last point would appear the most salient
RoboCCFC90
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If I could answer that Duffer I'd have a better paid job that what I currently have.
Should Sisu's public statements be true they want the Club to have full ownership of their own Stadium. This sounds very reasonable but is it achievable? Perhaps a different conversation entirely.
If you are asking me what my opinion is on why Sisu won't rent the Ricoh? I would say its because a mixture of the reason I stated above but because Sisu have a certain feeling of injustice and want to fight it.
Preferably I would prefer that Sisu purchased the Higgs share and took things from there, but we don't get what we want as fans, as this thread such proves.
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DazzleTommyDazzle
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Not sure how you got that impression!
RoboCCFC90
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skybluetony176
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How can you assume that? Once they finally admitted that the offer was made ML was falling over himself to tell us how bad of a deal it was. If dropping the JR was in there it would have been the fist thing him and TF would have been spouting of about as they did with the offer made through the administrator. ML was eager enough to tell us the bad parts it's just a shame he didn't disclose the offer in full. Can't think why he wouldn't, after all he doesn't work for sisu he's only interested in what's best for the club.
Nick
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If the offer was so good, why haven't ACL disclosed the terms?
I think TF came out and went through one of the offers but no reply to say "thats bullshit fella" in as many words.
As I recall ,the response was a bit of a conundrum in that What TF referred to as matchday costs when he was paying them in the previous season ,he now wished to imply they were in fact ," Rent".
Nick
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I think that was the one, I was by no means saying everything he said is true / correct etc BUT if ACL were to say "these are the terms, it is a great deal" then the ball is clearly in SISU's court isn't it?
Grendel
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Why won't Peter answer the question regarding the detail of the deal? Peter is always on hand to offer guidance and advice.
Which bad parts did ML talk about? I cannot recall very much about it. Again, some of the contents in full may be used in the JR.