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[Ccfcisparks]

Nowt wrong with him, and at least he comes on here after losing instead of that suspicious Ipswich chap.

hes harmless, just find it a bit odd is all. Of course hes going to get on peoples goat

 

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[robbiethemole]

Nowt wrong with him, and at least he comes on here after losing instead of that suspicious Ipswich chap.

he's better than that Lesta fuckwit too, I wonder where he's hiding since they fucked up????

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it, I just really don't recall there being these great chances you speak of. Even the one they got was a bit flukey as it just slapped off Latis face right into the Boro player.

Yeah I have to admit I didn't think they created much of note.

Whittaker had two half decent header opportunities but one was well blocked by Dasilva (would've probably caused Rushworth problems if he hadn't) and the other was when he was completely unmarked in the box and headed over the bar.

The shot by Sarmiento was a serious effort as that had beaten Rushworth the moment it left his boot.

Their other attempts were either straight at Rushworth or pathetic efforts from outside the box.

 

[SKYBLUES90]

Yeah I have to admit I didn't think they created much of note.

Whittaker had two half decent header opportunities but one was well blocked by Dasilva (would've probably caused Rushworth problems if he hadn't) and the other was when he was completely unmarked in the box and headed over the bar.

The shot by Sarmiento was a serious effort as that had beaten Rushworth the moment it left his boot.

Their other attempts were either straight at Rushworth or pathetic efforts from outside the box.

Just watched the extended highlights and this is pretty much spot on. Even the one Whittaker headed over the bar Rushworth had it covered. Its quite funny seeing some of the boro fans saying they could have easily had 2 or 3 goals last night. We limited them to next to nothing.

This idea that all we had to offer was the long ball is complete bollox. Sour grapes because they all expected to come down and us roll over. Dont get me wrong our fans have been guilty of getting ahead of themselves but the noise from this lot like their the best team the championship has ever seen. Hopefully this is the start of their down fall.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

No, that's the meaning you're choosing to take from it, there's a difference.

Did you play the long ball game last night to bypass the midfield where possible? Yes. Did you utilise the height of some of your players against ours and their physicality? Yes. To deny either would be ridiculous.

It's not your style from earlier in the season, but it's a style you did indeed adopt to win the game, which it did. You may choose to continue with this style to complement your press, depending on the opponent, which is up to Lampard really. If you gain more points from it in the remaining games then you'd be insane not to. I don't see the problem.

You need to enjoy the win more, rather than develop a whole chip on the shoulder and an "Everyone is out to get us and I'll choose to take every comment as a personal insult if I can find a way to interpret it that way" mentality.

That's NOT a Coventry thing, just in case you were thinking, we have a few with that mentality on our board too. Try not to be like them as it's tiring debating with someone who makes you feel your conversation has to walk on eggshells the whole time.

You need to stop making excuses for why you lost using everything apart from we were just better than you.
First half we completely shut you down and you were fortunate to be only one down.

Second half you were marginally better the stats will show but that was largely deliberate from us to allow you more possession and not press as aggressively and pick you off on the break.

And don't tell me what I need to do.

It's also tiring and frankly sad going onto other teams forums and spending as much time as yourself.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just watched the extended highlights and this is pretty much spot on. Even the one Whittaker headed over the bar Rushworth had it covered. Its quite funny seeing some of the boro fans saying they could have easily had 2 or 3 goals last night. We limited them to next to nothing.

This idea that all we had to offer was the long ball is complete bollox. Sour grapes because they all expected to come down and us roll over. Dont get me wrong our fans have been guilty of getting ahead of themselves but the noise from this lot like their the best team the championship has ever seen. Hopefully this is the start of their down fall.

Leeds last season were superior to both of us this season for a start.

 

[olderskyblue]

Sorry you are making it up.

Whittaker had a header right after the start of the 2nd half that he should have buried. If Haji missed that we would be saying he missed a ‘sitter’

78th minute, Ayling shot straight at rushworth where it was easier to score. Another where if it was Haji, we’d be saying it was a sitter.

McGree 85th minute, good chance, not a sitter

88th minute, Sene, absolute sitter missed 2yds from goal, although It would have been offside.

so, 3 good chances to score, all of which we would have labelled as sitters if it was our strikers missed them.

@fernandopartridge you should take more water with it mate

 

[Nick]

Yeah Whittaker should have scored.
They also hit the post.

Doesn't matter though, much prefer it when the other team miss

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Whittaker had a header right after the start of the 2nd half that he should have buried. If Haji missed that we would be saying he missed a ‘sitter’

78th minute, Ayling shot straight at rushworth where it was easier to score. Another where if it was Haji, we’d be saying it was a sitter.

McGree 85th minute, good chance, not a sitter

88th minute, Sene, absolute sitter missed 2yds from goal, although It would have been offside.

so, 3 good chances to score, all of which we would have labelled as sitters if it was our strikers missed them.

@fernandopartridge you should take more water with it mate

At the same time, we won the ball multiple times close to their box and squandered the opportunities. Throw in EMC going clean through then deciding to cut inside at the wrong moment.

For all this talk of long ball stuff, we should have scored a few from just pressing high up the pitch.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Just watched the extended highlights and this is pretty much spot on. Even the one Whittaker headed over the bar Rushworth had it covered. Its quite funny seeing some of the boro fans saying they could have easily had 2 or 3 goals last night. We limited them to next to nothing.

This idea that all we had to offer was the long ball is complete bollox. Sour grapes because they all expected to come down and us roll over. Dont get me wrong our fans have been guilty of getting ahead of themselves but the noise from this lot like their the best team the championship has ever seen. Hopefully this is the start of their down fall.

The second Whittaker header was more of a half chance to be honest. However, I included it in the mix as given the amount of space he had he should've done far, far better to keep it down.

I don't really get the gripe from Boro fans. That's tactics for you. If we went toe to toe with them we probably would've struggled. Winning football matches isn't about playing the same way week in week out though. It's about finding different ways to mitigate the opposition and ultimately win.

If I were an opposition manager setting up against Boro between now and the end of the season I'd look to use the blueprint we laid out as they looked horribly vulnerable when pressed and when facing the long ball. The chink in the Hellball armour has very much been found IMO.

 

[DT-R]

Boro fans love him:

Yeah, his reading of the game and technical ability to allow Wright in for the second was top class! You wont see better technical ability at this level

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[TomRad85]

Whittaker had a header right after the start of the 2nd half that he should have buried. If Haji missed that we would be saying he missed a ‘sitter’

78th minute, Ayling shot straight at rushworth where it was easier to score. Another where if it was Haji, we’d be saying it was a sitter.

McGree 85th minute, good chance, not a sitter

88th minute, Sene, absolute sitter missed 2yds from goal, although It would have been offside.

so, 3 good chances to score, all of which we would have labelled as sitters if it was our strikers missed them.

@fernandopartridge you should take more water with it mate

Would take a heck of a header to beat Rushworth from there.


Not Ayling, Strelec shot. Was a poor shot after cutting in but not even close to a sitter.


McGrees good chance... ball under his feet with little room to manoeuvre and hits a tame shot.


Sene not worth mentioning as offside.

Seems to me you have taken every half chance as a 'should score' moment for some reason. Whittakers is probably the best but would still have to be some header.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Would take a heck of a header to beat Rushworth from there.
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Not Ayling, Strelec shot. Was a poor shot after cutting in but not even close to a sitter.
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McGrees good chance... ball under his feet with little room to manoeuvre and hits a tame shot.
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Sene not worth mentioning as offside.

Seems to me you have taken every half chance as a 'should score' moment for some reason. Whittakers is probably the best but would still have to be some header.

Looking back at the highlights all he really needed to do was keep it down and direct it and it would've certainly caused Rushworth some problems. He had the space and time to do so.

 

[CCFCSteve]

At the same time, we won the ball multiple times close to their box and squandered the opportunities. Throw in EMC going clean through then deciding to cut inside at the wrong moment.

For all this talk of long ball stuff, we should have scored a few from just pressing high up the pitch.

Yeah, wright hit the post, Mason Clark had a couple of half chances first half where he could’ve done better and Rudoni with blocked shot.

I did think Boro deserved a second, fine margins in football though. I also felt we created as many good situations v Oxford and didn’t get a goal, yet three last night .

 

[Kris_Boro]

Which great chances were these? You got into some promising positions but the only great chance you had was your goal.

Well i would also add hitting the post although it was a shot from nothing. We had a great chance but McGree put hardly any power on it and straight at the keeper and also Sene the ball was at his foot about 1 yard out and he decided to well do nothing.

Maybe not clear cut but the type of chances we have been taking in recent weeks.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, wright hit the post, Mason Clark had a couple of half chances first half where he could’ve done better and Rudoni with blocked shot.

I did think Boro deserved a second, fine margins in football though. I also felt we created as many good situations v Oxford and didn’t get a goal, yet three last night .

I was right behind Sarmiento’s effort and thought it was in all the way. Thankfully it’s one where we get the rub of the green and it comes back out.

We were value for the win overall though.

 

[TomRad85]

Looking back at the highlights all he really needed to do was keep it down and direct it and it would've certainly caused Rushworth some problems. He had the space and time to do so.

The one from Haji is a far better chance i would have thought...

The cross from Sakamoto is whipped towards the goal so all Haji has to do is direct it on target, Whittakers chance asks more of the player, not to mention him being a player i don't really associate with headers, although i could be wrong.

 

[David O'Day]

Whittaker had a header right after the start of the 2nd half that he should have buried. If Haji missed that we would be saying he missed a ‘sitter’

78th minute, Ayling shot straight at rushworth where it was easier to score. Another where if it was Haji, we’d be saying it was a sitter.

McGree 85th minute, good chance, not a sitter

88th minute, Sene, absolute sitter missed 2yds from goal, although It would have been offside.

so, 3 good chances to score, all of which we would have labelled as sitters if it was our strikers missed them.

@fernandopartridge you should take more water with it mate

The header even if he hit the target it would have been saved as Rushworth had it covered, an offside, an ok chance and a shot in th 78th minute that actually wasn't that good a chance?

Yeah they should have scored loads

 

[SKYBLUES90]

Would take a heck of a header to beat Rushworth from there.
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Not Ayling, Strelec shot. Was a poor shot after cutting in but not even close to a sitter.
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McGrees good chance... ball under his feet with little room to manoeuvre and hits a tame shot.
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Sene not worth mentioning as offside.

Seems to me you have taken every half chance as a 'should score' moment for some reason. Whittakers is probably the best but would still have to be some header.

Im all for this level of pettiness to go and get receipts

You’re spot on btw.

 

[David O'Day]

Boys, let the pricks think they are Smogalona and we'll be grateful with roundly smashed them twice and it's 7-3 over the season to us.

 

[TomRad85]

Im all for this level of pettiness to go and get receipts

You’re spot on btw.

I'm just not having them as 'should score' moments at all. It's nonsense, they are just normal half chances you get in every game.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I'm just not having them as 'should score' moments at all. It's nonsense, they are just normal half chances you get in every game.

If you count all those you count the 2 chances EMC should have done better with, the one Rudoni got blocked in the first few minutes and any that cross JDS put in that Sakamoto couldnt get to.

 

[David O'Day]

I'm just not having them as 'should score' moments at all. It's nonsense, they are just normal half chances you get in every game.

They fact they have to count a time a player was well off shows how much it is bullshit

 

[TomRad85]

If you count all those you count the 2 chances EMC should have done better with, the one Rudoni got blocked in the first few minutes and any that cross JDS put in that Sakamoto couldnt get to.

Well yes its assuming every Championship player has the finishing of peak Batistuta on performance enhancing drugs.

 

[Ipad Boro]

Please re read your last post. To summarise you implied we beat you because of hoodoo. You have the best defence and midfield in the league and no strikers….Fair play for being complementary about our goal keeper though

For the so called best championship team there’s ever been you looked bang average last night. You move the ball around nice though, I’ll give you that.

I've re read my last post as requested. I suggest you do the same as to give you at least one bit of credit I did indeed say we had the best midfield in the league, which I stand by tbh.

Not once did I say we had the best defence in the league, just that it was "very decent". Which it normally is as the league stats will show. FWIW I actually think Stoke have the best defence in the championship, it's just further forward they are lacking. Whether this is up to their personel in defence or their approach isn't fully clear, but you can have that debate with a Stoke fan as they'd know better than I. Brittain and Target are generally very good at this level and our best 2 CBs together (Malanda & Jones - unfortunately still injured- IMO) are indeed very decent, Fry is a good back up at this level too. Ayling is less competent at defending, but good at playing it out and advancing usually. You took that to mean "best defence in the league" somehow which I don't really understand, but ok, if it fits your narrative of being disgruntled to claim that "really decent" in fact means "the best" I can understand that at least.

Strikers obviously we could do better in for natural finishers, just my stating a fact. However, the majority of our goals come from midfield due to the way we're set up, again another fact. I don't see why you'd have an issue with my saying this, but if you want to get offended over that, that's your call.

Fully expected to get beaten in this game in advance, yes because of the Hoodoo which I'd said plenty beforehand so it's not my just coming up with something after the event, but such occurrences tend to go on for a while in Boro fan's experience. You may not agree that they exist, but you have your opinion, I have mine. I'll not be too amazed if this again pisses you off for whatever concocted reason. The circumstances of this particular match you can have a look at my other posts seeing as how you seem to be very concerned with scanning through them, hoping for something to offend you. I've clearly stated that the key factors at play here were your gameplan which made the most of physicality and long balls to bypass our midfield, and your players sticking to and executing it very well. As well as this our selection of Ayling instead of Fry at CB was an error IMHO and the penalty was just unfortunately one of those things as whilst there was no intention of handball, that's where the ball struck him so within the rules of the game I'd not have any complaints about it being given.

These are the key factors that most contributed to your win. However, I also think there's a good chance that even if you hadn't played as well, we'd have found other ways to shoot ourselves in the foot, had more bad luck, etc, etc, because yes, the Hoodoo. I apologise if my life experience causes me to see some things differently to you and this causes you to seethe with rage as it wasn't my intention.

 

[robbiethemole]

As you say midfield is our strongest area, it dominates the league so Lampard did well to employ a succession of long punts from your half to a big lad, bypassing it.

We're actually very decent in defence too, but I feel it was was the wrong game to play Ayling in. He's 34 and has played every game this season so could do with a rest and Fry should have came in as he's bigger and better at dealing with long balls, barging and physicality which is a key part of your game so we'd have done well to include him.

Strikers...yeah, we could have done with getting an out and out poacher tbh. We don't tend to set up with strikers as our main goal threat so will feel it less than most, but it would have been ideal to bring one on in a game like tonight.

In terms of keepers, Bryn is ok, but he's not on Rushworth's level.

Hellball has been a revelation for us mind you. It's just you're never going to see it in any real full effect against yourselves for the same reason that you could play mediocre to good 5 times previously and have 1 absolutely awesome game against us..because Hoodoo. It therefore follows that our performance levels will drop, again because Hoodoo.

Against other decent sides such as the Blades obviously no Hoodoo exists so we were able to dominate to do the double over them no matter how well they played, which they did at theirs to give them credit. Against Ipswich whikst not guaranteed, we're also 3 or 4 times more likely to do the double over them than we were to get a single point off you. The reverse being true obviously for yourselves.

It remains that we've accumulated more points in the league than any other side since Hellberg rocked up, so it's doing him an injustice to claim that his methods aren't decent. A side with merely a good midfield and nothing else going for it including poor tactics racking up those kind of returns would be impossible and would render the entire league crap by comparison if that were the case. including yourselves. Which as both you and a clutch of other sides clearly aren't crap kind of refuses that theory.

Our PPG since he arrived and including tonight's result AND our christmas slump, expanded to a whole season would see us rack up 95 points plus. We may not get that high, but considering that, our manager's methods are certainly not slacking. And we only have 1 of our 4 Hoodoo games left to play. Other than that of course we expect to win most games.

starting to sound like that boring Lesta twat now pal, let it go we've played you twice and beaten you twice, all this is just copium.
you play nice footy but can't score lots so go and concentrate on that.

 

[torchomatic]

hes harmless, just find it a bit odd is all. Of course hes going to get on peoples goat

Not sure how. If they'd won and he came on here to gloat then fair enough, but he isn't. Seems quite a balanced supporter on the whole, who, of course, will skew things to the advantage of his team, which most fans would do, although a few on here wouldn't.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not sure how. If they'd won and he came on here to gloat then fair enough, but he isn't. Seems quite a balanced supporter on the whole, who, of course, will skew things to the advantage of his team, which most fans would do, although a few on here wouldn't.

Dont really care. The games done and hes dissecting it on here. He can go and do that on his forum. We've played them twice, beat them both times and now dont play them again.

 

[torchomatic]

Dont really care. The games done and hes dissecting it on here. He can go and do that on his forum. We've played them twice, beat them both times and now dont play them again.

Again, fair enough. Personally, I have no issue with him coming on here.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

The one from Haji is a far better chance i would have thought...
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The cross from Sakamoto is whipped towards the goal so all Haji has to do is direct it on target, Whittakers chance asks more of the player, not to mention him being a player i don't really associate with headers, although i could be wrong.

It's unfortunate as he hit the post but Haji's effort is another one where really he should be scoring, or at the very least getting it on target.

Re. your second point you say it asks more of a player but how often does a forward tend to get that much space and freedom for a header? Not sure how intentional it was, but it was a great cross as well.

 

[olderskyblue]

The one from Haji is a far better chance i would have thought...
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The cross from Sakamoto is whipped towards the goal so all Haji has to do is direct it on target, Whittakers chance asks more of the player, not to mention him being a player i don't really associate with headers, although i could be wrong.

Amazing. I hadn’t included this one as they hit the post as well. You also included one that I didn’t mention.

if Haji had missed the 3 chances I mentioned, you would be berating him for missing sitters.

it was a great win, and a great night at the CBS, and I’m glad they didn't take their chances, but to claim they didn’t have those great chances is nuts.

 

[alexccfc99]

Horrible fans

Coventry fans - horrible c**ts. I’ve been to the CBS before and always thought they were alright. Walking back to the car at the Longford Engine with my teenage son, the only thing marking us out was a red-and-white scarf, and we still got abuse from three separate groups of their fans. I...

fmttmboro.com

Not sure what supposedly happened last night but less than complimentary about us, on and off the pitch

 

[David O'Day]

Amazing. I hadn’t included this one as they hit the post as well. You also included one that I didn’t mention.

if Haji had missed the 3 chances I mentioned, you would be berating him for missing sitters.

it was a great win, and a great night at the CBS, and I’m glad they didn't take their chances, but to claim they didn’t have those great chances is nuts.

it's nuts that you are claiming them as great chances, the Strelec one, how is that a "great chance" or a "sitter"?

 

[olderskyblue]

it's nuts that you are claiming them as great chances, the Strelec one, how is that a "great chance" or a "sitter"?

I never mentioned that one, Tom did

 

[robbiethemole]

Amazing. I hadn’t included this one as they hit the post as well. You also included one that I didn’t mention.

if Haji had missed the 3 chances I mentioned, you would be berating him for missing sitters.

it was a great win, and a great night at the CBS, and I’m glad they didn't take their chances, but to claim they didn’t have those great chances is nuts.

stop overthinking it, it will do your head in. It don't matter today we won, they lost just accept it at face value, don't be one of those who critcise every win.