Championship thread 25/26! (68 Viewers)

TomRad85

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Could argue if someone took Lampard when we were at our peak, assuming we didn't pick a complete dud, it could have worked that way for us too. Sometimes things just work out and it feels like its meant to be, which it does a bit with Boro now. Hopefully we stop shitting the bed and can hold Ipswich off.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Come on mate, he’s not been on the pitch for 12 games, going by that Simms is our best forward

Come on mate, he’s not been on the pitch for 12 games, going by that Simms is our

Come on mate, he’s not been on the pitch for 12 games, going by that Simms is our best forward 😂
I was just responding to your claim, Assante was the top goal scorer. Based on those stats, he clearly isn't, but not far off. What it does show , is despite Wright being Franks favourite, he doesn't score enough.

Assante brings total energy, as well as goals. Will be great to have him back, with EMC and new Frank, as well. Hopefully things will change. Assante misses next game, I believe.
 

Pezza

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There will be twists and turns, my worry if that won't be us twisting and turning. It'll be more Millwall and Hull coming up along with Ipswich. Boro could easily go on a run and get 1 win in 6 or similar and then one of others go and get 5 wins out of 6. We basically need to end the season with 10 wins from 15... and I just don't see it.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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There will be twists and turns, my worry if that won't be us twisting and turning. It'll be more Millwall and Hull coming up along with Ipswich. Boro could easily go on a run and get 1 win in 6 or similar and then one of others go and get 5 wins out of 6. We basically need to end the season with 10 wins from 15... and I just don't see it.
Be difficult, hopefully with Assante back, game after next, EMC back next week ( hopefully) and Frank the tank, things pick up.
 

CovValleyBoy

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So how would you suggest he changes things, we set up more defensive on Saturday which was what a lot wanted and we couldn’t even score against Oxford, he sets up attacking to try and win games, rather see us come up short having a go at teams than play like we did Saturday, unless You wanted to see us play 532 with a back 5 who can’t defend and no wingers and 2 forwards who can’t hit a barn door at the minute, we’re a team who can’t defend but some fans want us to play more defensively, work that out
Yeah but i sense we all know the time to drop Kitch & Thomas was not against OXFord.
Our home form has been exceptional with those two. We missed BT aerial massively & Kitch probing passes against a weak side.

Time to consider a change was for nxt away match. Now Frank has a huge decision to make.
Feel he has to stay with Wolf & Lat whether he wants to or not ?? Yikes !
 

Tommo1993

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Apologies for my flippancy. I can’t stand seeing someone else flying like we were earlier on while we get knocked off our perch, mostly by our own undoing. It’s pure cope. Maybe I should pack it in on here for the remainder because it’s gonna be rough. We can still do it and I do want to believe.

Please wake up City. Please. Understand what this means and wake up 🙏🏻

I’ll try really hard to stay away. No promises 😛
 

Hobo

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Yeah but i sense we all know the time to drop Kitch & Thomas was not against OXFord.
Our home form has been exceptional with those two. We missed BT aerial massively & Kitch probing passes against a weak side.

Time to consider a change was for nxt away match. Now Frank has a huge decision to make.
Feel he has to stay with Wolf & Lat whether he wants to or not ?? Yikes !

I think it was the right time. Both have been poor for weeks. Whenever Latibeaudiere and Woolfenden have come in they did well, but never given a run.

Oxford gave them a game to bed in and get match sharpness. They kept a clean sheet, no howlers. To suggest we didn’t beat Oxford because of them is bonkers, we had enough possession and shots to do so.

The reason we didn’t beat Oxford, is because of their low block and good organisation, plus they are fighting for their lives. We often struggle against those tactics - party because our wingers don’t get behind defences and to the bye line often enough so our attackers are running onto the ball and defenders are facing their own goal.

One thing was noticeable last night with Middlesbrough at Sheffield United, the variation at corners free kicks and throw ins with both sides. With us it is very predictable what we are going to deliver. We lack quick thinking inventiveness that can catch the opposition on the hop.
 

Grendel

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No but for us to finish in the playoffs the form will have been not good enough for over half a season ?

He will at that point be doing a bad job

I genuinely think our 2001 crash was worse - fans were angry for sure - someone attacked Hedman against Preston (?) I think but in that situation sacking the manager proved catastrophic
 

quinn1971

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I was just responding to your claim, Assante was the top goal scorer. Based on those stats, he clearly isn't, but not far off. What it does show , is despite Wright being Franks favourite, he doesn't score enough.

Assante brings total energy, as well as goals. Will be great to have him back, with EMC and new Frank, as well. Hopefully things will change. Assante misses next game, I believe.
Yeah , back for West Brom, winner of the bench to put us clear at the top after our demolition of mbiro, 👍
 

SonofErnie

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There will be twists and turns, my worry if that won't be us twisting and turning. It'll be more Millwall and Hull coming up along with Ipswich. Boro could easily go on a run and get 1 win in 6 or similar and then one of others go and get 5 wins out of 6. We basically need to end the season with 10 wins from 15... and I just don't see it.
Despite winning 11 of those in the reverse fixtures? It’s achievable but we have to get back on form now, no excuses.
 

Sick Boy

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I genuinely think our 2001 crash was worse - fans were angry for sure - someone attacked Hedman against Preston (?) I think but in that situation sacking the manager proved catastrophic
There was also a genuine expectation from the start of the season that we'd walk the league.
 

Grendel

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There was also a genuine expectation from the start of the season that we'd walk the league.

I never for once thought we wouldn’t get promoted - when Hughes scored late against Norwich we were a shoe in really. I think we got 1 point in our last eight games
 

Evo1883

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I genuinely think our 2001 crash was worse - fans were angry for sure - someone attacked Hedman against Preston (?) I think but in that situation sacking the manager proved catastrophic
This was after the pompey game its all i could find , wed just won 5 of the previous 7 .. and then went onto win 2 of the next 3 .

We lost the plot in the final 8 games losing 7 Screenshot-2020-02-24-at-21.44.10.png
 

Grendel

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This was after the pompey game its all i could find , wed just won 5 of the previous 7 .. and then went onto win 2 of the next 3 .

We lost the plot in the final 8 games losing 7 View attachment 49117
which in terms of the season as a whole was ridiculous- we were never out the top 6

we lost 9 I think of our last 12 games and finished 11th - we ended up with 20 defeats

Never recovered as a club
 

Grendel

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We actually lost 15 games from December out of the 20 over the season
 

Shannerz

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Potential change to the playoffs being voted on.

Possibility of it going the same way as the National League (still the GM Vauxhall Conference, as far as I am concerned), where six teams qualify for the POs. teams finishing in places 5 to 8 play each other in a single game, the winners going onto the POs proper along with teams finishing in places 3 and 4.

It would keep the league even more lively for more teams for longer, but there would be the potential for some proper dross (hello, Preston) getting promoted.

Personally, I like them as they are, and if something's not broken, don't fix it.
 

jas365

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Fuck it, i'm going
Potential change to the playoffs being voted on.

Possibility of it going the same way as the National League (still the GM Vauxhall Conference, as far as I am concerned), where six teams qualify for the POs. teams finishing in places 5 to 8 play each other in a single game, the winners going onto the POs proper along with teams finishing in places 3 and 4.

It would keep the league even more lively for more teams for longer, but there would be the potential for some proper dross (hello, Preston) getting promoted.

Personally, I like them as they are, and if something's not broken, don't fix it.
I'd go one further and make the semi finals one leg as well, with the teams finishing the highest having home advantage.
 

edgy

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Potential change to the playoffs being voted on.

Possibility of it going the same way as the National League (still the GM Vauxhall Conference, as far as I am concerned), where six teams qualify for the POs. teams finishing in places 5 to 8 play each other in a single game, the winners going onto the POs proper along with teams finishing in places 3 and 4.

It would keep the league even more lively for more teams for longer, but there would be the potential for some proper dross (hello, Preston) getting promoted.

Personally, I like them as they are, and if something's not broken, don't fix it.

This will pass with ease, it imagine
 

shmmeee

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I think it was the right time. Both have been poor for weeks. Whenever Latibeaudiere and Woolfenden have come in they did well, but never given a run.

Oxford gave them a game to bed in and get match sharpness. They kept a clean sheet, no howlers. To suggest we didn’t beat Oxford because of them is bonkers, we had enough possession and shots to do so.

The reason we didn’t beat Oxford, is because of their low block and good organisation, plus they are fighting for their lives. We often struggle against those tactics - party because our wingers don’t get behind defences and to the bye line often enough so our attackers are running onto the ball and defenders are facing their own goal.

One thing was noticeable last night with Middlesbrough at Sheffield United, the variation at corners free kicks and throw ins with both sides. With us it is very predictable what we are going to deliver. We lack quick thinking inventiveness that can catch the opposition on the hop.

We are, or should be, also fighting and doing it at home until with better quality. Agree that we’re generally too slow and predictable in attack right now but we were the opposite when we were doing well.
 

baldy

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I genuinely think our 2001 crash was worse - fans were angry for sure - someone attacked Hedman against Preston (?) I think but in that situation sacking the manager proved catastrophic

Grimsby wasn't it that Hedman incident? Or am I just getting mixed up with the home defeat by them where he fucked up 🤔
 

Hobo

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We are, or should be, also fighting and doing it at home until with better quality. Agree that we’re generally too slow and predictable in attack right now but we were the opposite when we were doing well.

yes and some teams we beat back then are the opposite now to what they were. Football is a confidence game and form ebbs and flows. That purple patch was a bonus and was unsustainable, because footballl isn’t an exact science.

It’s a myth that the best teams play free flowing inventive football all the time. They don’t. What sits the best teams apart, is they have their purple patch, but when they can’t find the quality, they still find a way. If you take the lead you at least come away with a draw, especially away from home.
 

Adge

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Grimsby wasn't it that Hedman incident? Or am I just getting mixed up with the home defeat by them where he fucked up 🤔
Grimsby was a Hedman brain fart when he passed it into midfield and they went onto score-Strachan running down the tunnel at the end to get away from the fans.
It was Preston away where we got a 4-0 tonking I think (yes-the record goes on) and someone came from behind the goal to have a go at Hedman. Funny thing was Hedman shit himself but then all of a sudden got brave when the aforementioned member of the Sky Blue Army was safely on the deck with 2-3 stewards on top of him. Hedman started pavement bouncing on his pogo stick-should’ve got his badge in at the same time! 😂
 

Winny the Bish

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That Malanda for Middlesbrough is incredible. Pace, height, composed on the ball and a good passer.

Meanwhile we signed Woolfen-dud because he had none of those attributes, but cHaMp ExPeRiEnCe
 

Alkhen

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EMC , Grimes , onyeka , wright is better than conway , not sure i rate ayling that highly either
For sure. On form we have a great squad, better than Boro. Just a shame they all went off boil at once. We do need to keep it on mind this team was blowing teams away 4s and 5s on the regular. It can happen again. Likewise other teams will hit rough patches, let's not pretend Boro are that amazing
 

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