skyblue_55
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So , so predictable & now we might miss out on the best chance for 25 years , so please Frank & with Doug’s help of investment, get us to the promised land
No PLAN B (7 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Goblin
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Not sure what the plan A is atm
Londonccfcfan
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Its been absolutely awfull and clueless for weeks.
Whats most concerning is Frank he doesnt seem concerned.
Whats most concerning is Frank he doesnt seem concerned.
Legia Sky Blue
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Hindsight I know, but these away games where we've taken the lead recently would have been a perfect opportunity to change to a back 5 to shore things up. We certainly don't seem to have made it very hard for the opposition to get back into these games.
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Sign Hamer and Burrows go 352
Rushworth
Thomas - Woolfenden - Kitching
van Ewijk - Torp - Hamer - Burrows
Rudoni
Simms - Wright
just give Grimes a rest he needs it, when BTA is back start him over whoever is the most out of form up front, and when EMC is back go 343, or even switch it up to a 343 or 433 at 60 by bringing on Esse, Saka, Dasilva and Grimes
Rushworth
Thomas - Woolfenden - Kitching
van Ewijk - Torp - Hamer - Burrows
Rudoni
Simms - Wright
just give Grimes a rest he needs it, when BTA is back start him over whoever is the most out of form up front, and when EMC is back go 343, or even switch it up to a 343 or 433 at 60 by bringing on Esse, Saka, Dasilva and Grimes
trakia plovdiv
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We’ve got super Frankie LampardFrankie’s got no need for plan B
Just six men in attack
The full backs don’t get back
And a gaping hole where the midfield should be.
RegiswasGod
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How a world class midfielder in his time can't see the biggest fucking gulf in the middle of the park week in, week out is beyond me.
hinckley cov
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Plan A is give the ball to Grimes to slow the game down even if we’re losing
SkyBlueChris
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Grimes had the 4th to 17th of Jan off... should we have given him the whole month off???
Londonccfcfan
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Plsn B was play offs...thays looking like a good acomplishment atm with teams hitting form below us.
skyblueeyesrevisited
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Three at the back for away games. That’s what is required.
long way home
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We are 1 up and we either switch off or our LB and RB decide to go on a lung busting charges, leaving gaps that drag the CB out .. To win games you need players who are disciplined for 100mins with the nouce to see out when up in games while holding each other accountable.
To win a league you need the above, quality depth and a lot of luck.
Well, we are shit out of luck and now lack discipline and accountability by the look of it. The only hope we have left is Doug brings in more quality and FL makes changes to win games to bring about some confidence.
The best thing about yesterday is we are under no illusions about what we need to do. Just hope Doug does it and FL sits a few on a bench or in a stand until they grow up and stop playing like they already have the trophy in the cabinet.
To win a league you need the above, quality depth and a lot of luck.
Well, we are shit out of luck and now lack discipline and accountability by the look of it. The only hope we have left is Doug brings in more quality and FL makes changes to win games to bring about some confidence.
The best thing about yesterday is we are under no illusions about what we need to do. Just hope Doug does it and FL sits a few on a bench or in a stand until they grow up and stop playing like they already have the trophy in the cabinet.
hill83
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“Do good kicks and score and win”
SkyblueTexan
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Change super to stupid. Then you’ve got a hit song.
Frankie’s got no need for plan B
Just six men in attack
The full backs don’t get back
And a gaping hole where the midfield should be.
SkyblueTexan
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Moreover, he’s supposed to have a very high IQ. He’s looking very stupid now isn’t he? Stubbornly sticking to the same tactics every match and expecting a positive outcome is a recipe for disaster. It’s so easy to game plan against us.
Otis
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I would never call him stupid. I think that's really unfair.
He just doesn't seem to see what we are seeing. Obviously still believes in the system.
I would change very little at home, but set us up differently away.
Set us up to be much more compact away and to aim to catch teams on the break. Not constantly being committing players forward all the time, leaving us very prone when the opposition breakaway.
If we can win most of our home games, but look at picking up draws away, we'd be fine.
The last two away games we have taken the lead and then lost and this has been against sides that are not quality sides or at the top either.
In both games, once we had taken the lead, I think we could have played a little more conservatively and compact. Especially yesterday. We scored in the 53rd minute, which gave us a great base to protect that lead.
He just doesn't seem to see what we are seeing. Obviously still believes in the system.
I would change very little at home, but set us up differently away.
Set us up to be much more compact away and to aim to catch teams on the break. Not constantly being committing players forward all the time, leaving us very prone when the opposition breakaway.
If we can win most of our home games, but look at picking up draws away, we'd be fine.
The last two away games we have taken the lead and then lost and this has been against sides that are not quality sides or at the top either.
In both games, once we had taken the lead, I think we could have played a little more conservatively and compact. Especially yesterday. We scored in the 53rd minute, which gave us a great base to protect that lead.
rob9872
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Not sure why everyone is jumping on the 'Grimes needs a rest' bandwagon.
He regularly plays a full season at this level and it's not a position where he's running the most. He's fit, strong and doesn't rely on pace. Only a few weeks ago, everyone agreed how important he is, that hasn't changed. What he needs is help in there.
Whether that's Onyeka or another I have no idea, but a strong ball winner who works box to box.
He regularly plays a full season at this level and it's not a position where he's running the most. He's fit, strong and doesn't rely on pace. Only a few weeks ago, everyone agreed how important he is, that hasn't changed. What he needs is help in there.
Whether that's Onyeka or another I have no idea, but a strong ball winner who works box to box.
rob9872
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A high IQ and a high football IQ are not the same thing (eg David Beckham). I do think Frank has both though, but he needs to be tough and if he continues with subs by numbers, going like for like in Robins style and not changing the formation, then he'll ultimately fail.
StrettoBoy
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I agree with most of what you say but I can’t see us buying Hamer or Burrows. We might get Onyeka, although he may not want to come if he has watched videos of our recent games.
SIR ERNIE
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MVE them JDS are our biggest problem, especially away from home. They're not defenders, they can't defend, can't tackle.
Forever chasing back having lost their man.
They have no defensive positional sense and don't form a cohesive defensive unit with Thomas and Kitching.
Forever chasing back having lost their man.
They have no defensive positional sense and don't form a cohesive defensive unit with Thomas and Kitching.
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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I think it would work with Onyeka and Dasilva as well to be honest
Skyblue Bangkok
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There isn't even a hint of anyone coming in now.
StrettoBoy
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I think it would be an improvement on what we are doing at the moment. We certainly need to play a little more conservatively because the current gung ho approach is failing.
StrettoBoy
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Onyeka has certainly gone very quiet. I suspect we are not going to get him, although obviously it's possible.
Any other signings might be surprise ones, like Markelo, of an almost unknown player from abroad.
Otis
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Thing that I don't get with Grimes is that his passing was fabulous early in the season and he hardly ever gave the ball away.
Mr. Consistent. Now all of a sudden, some of his passing seems to have gone to shit.
nicksar
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He's certainly not at his best currently but yesterday the pitch was terrible....QPR's pitch is worse than many non league clubs.Thing that I don't get with Grimes is that his passing was fabulous early in the season and he hardly ever gave the ball away.
Mr. Consistent. Now all of a sudden, some of his passing seems to have gone to shit.
Not making excuses for the overall performance yesterday but that pitch played a part for sure (QPR players are used to it).
OffenhamSkyBlue
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Chelsea were 2-0 down at half-time at home against West Ham, and couldn't get the ball. Rosenior saw what was happening and made three subs at the start of the second half, changed the formation and the plan. They barely gave West Ham a kick of the ball second half and ended up winning 3-2. THAT is footballing IQ. Our coaching staff and players don't know how to change it up.
MVE and JDS playing in a back four means we effectively have a back TWO, as they can't hold their positions, leaving Kitching and Thomas hopelessly exposed against teams attacking in numbers. If you're going to play four at the back, the full-backs HAVE to stay back and the outside midfielders (Saka/Esse and EMC) need to drop to get the ball, which they don't do.
That said, i can't remember the last time JDS or MVE actually stopped a cross coming in!
Oh, and drop the long throw-ins - they don't work EVER because we don't have anyone who can challenge for a ball in the air. It's just an opportunity for the opposition to initiate a move out from the back.
MVE and JDS playing in a back four means we effectively have a back TWO, as they can't hold their positions, leaving Kitching and Thomas hopelessly exposed against teams attacking in numbers. If you're going to play four at the back, the full-backs HAVE to stay back and the outside midfielders (Saka/Esse and EMC) need to drop to get the ball, which they don't do.
That said, i can't remember the last time JDS or MVE actually stopped a cross coming in!
Oh, and drop the long throw-ins - they don't work EVER because we don't have anyone who can challenge for a ball in the air. It's just an opportunity for the opposition to initiate a move out from the back.
rob9872
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I think the passing is because sometimes nobody is short enough to receive it. When that hole in midfield is greater, the passes become longer and more difficult.
His passing accuracy was still 90% yesterday with 65/72 completed and his long range out of that 9/12.
shmmeee
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Yeah but a high footballer IQ which is basically being able to tie your own shoelaces.
Legia Sky Blue
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We've scored a number of goals this season from long throws so you are wrong. Where I will agree is that I don't think it is always wise for MVE to come over and take long throws from the left, whereby he is automatically way out of position once he's taken it.
shmmeee
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This is something Onyeka should help with as he’s also a long throw expert.