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Sick Boy

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I know you enjoy trolling on here but it's why it's barely worth engaging. Most on here think Reform are an extreme party but the likes of Polanski and Sultana are totally normal. There's not a lot you can do with that really. It's just better we know where we all stand and crack on talking about football.
I wouldn't say Reform are an extreme party but they'll do absolutely fuck all to improve the lives of ordinary working people.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Don't take the piss out of teeth ... also look at this blokes teeth who isnt a politician.

The levels of double standards in this echo chamber are scary.

Pete you're even the one telling Dom not to do it and have then liked Dave's post!!
He’s an absolute bellend and an utter embarrassment, it’s a group of about 5 of them on here who think they are right about anything and everything. Like I said, as soon as they log off on here they get laughed at by everyone
 

Captain Dart

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Has any calc's been done around bit coin mining or data centres requirements or protected usage?
The 5g network uses a lot more power than 4g. I understand each of those monstrous towers they're putting up uses as much electricity as half a street of residential housing. It seems that the network will use approx 4 times the power of the existing networks and eventually consume 20% of the generated electricity.

 

Mcbean

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The 5g network uses a lot more power than 4g. I understand each of those monstrous towers they're putting up uses as much electricity as half a street of residential housing. It seems that the network will use approx 4 times the power of the existing networks and eventually consume 20% of the generated electricity.

One of the US guys Starmer met said that UK was already far behind in its quest for net zero as there’s insufficient planning for the infrastructure to power the servers for AI and 5g - the idiot Minibrain needs sacking asap
 

fernandopartridge

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One of the US guys Starmer met said that UK was already far behind in its quest for net zero as there’s insufficient planning for the infrastructure to power the servers for AI and 5g - the idiot Minibrain needs sacking asap
What are you talking about net zero and AI and 5G in the same breath for?

I'm no fan of Starmer at all but the things you're referring to are much longer term issues which have little to do with him. The Climate Change Act which drives the pursuit of net zero became law in 2008.

The Tories actually changed that law in 2019 to amend the UK target of net carbon emissions to be reduced by 80% of 1990 levels to 100% of them by 2050. I can't remember you posting about that for some reason.
 

Mcbean

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What are you talking about net zero and AI and 5G in the same breath for?

I'm no fan of Starmer at all but the things you're referring to are much longer term issues which have little to do with him. The Climate Change Act which drives the pursuit of net zero became law in 2008.

The Tories actually changed that law in 2019 to amend the UK target of net carbon emissions to be reduced by 80% of 1990 levels to 100% of them by 2050. I can't remember you posting about that for some reason.
You are probably right - as I have never been good at detail - however I will try and find that nugget - but it did involve Starmer as he was the audience - the comments were on UK and the comment definitely referred to insufficient infrastructure to power all this stuff we are supposed to have !
 

Grendel

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What’s actually staggering is they have raised £4 million in membership fees in one year
 

rob9872

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What’s actually staggering is they have raised £4 million in membership fees in one year
Do you know how that compares with the established parties and do they charge at the same level? Sounds impressive from a standing start, but I have no point of reference.
 

Grendel

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Do you know how that compares with the established parties and do they charge at the same level? Sounds impressive from a standing start, but I have no point of reference.

It will I assume be far more - tories declared theirs at £1.5 m. Most are falling in membership
 

Ccfcisparks

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How can you be incompetent enough to not know you need to declare VAT on things sold. Choosing a party to vote for in this country is like choosing which type of cancer you want.
 

Grendel

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chiefdave

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You have to admit though, it would be funny to watch Farage scurry away from the position within days.
Will never forget the morning after the brexit result. You'd expect Farage to be on a victory lap but no. He turned up on Breakfast TV doing everything he could to distance himself from it.

Claimed nobody had ever said there would be £350m a week for the NHS, that it was not for him to say, let alone be involved with, how we should implement leaving the EU.
 

Sick Boy

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Will never forget the morning after the brexit result. You'd expect Farage to be on a victory lap but no. He turned up on Breakfast TV doing everything he could to distance himself from it.

Claimed nobody had ever said there would be £350m a week for the NHS, that it was not for him to say, let alone be involved with, how we should implement leaving the EU.
And Gove and Johnson looking like they’d lost.
 

rob9872

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Why does the £350m keep getting raised 10 years later? As I recall it, the sentiment was this is what it COULD fund, not this is what it will fund. If we were £350m a week better off you could do A, B, C or D with it, but one of the options was NHS. He never had the power in gov't to distribute that wealth and I don't know what the true saving (or cost) has been openly shared. The pandemic of course didn't help, but has anyone published any numbers recently? It was largely rubbished from the outset, so if you think that's the reason that leave won, I'd be amazed.
 

PVA

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Why does the £350m keep getting raised 10 years later? As I recall it, the sentiment was this is what it COULD fund, not this is what it will fund. If we were £350m a week better off you could do A, B, C or D with it, but one of the options was NHS. He never had the power in gov't to distribute that wealth and I don't know what the true saving (or cost) has been openly shared. The pandemic of course didn't help, but has anyone published any numbers recently? It was largely rubbished from the outset, so if you think that's the reason that leave won, I'd be amazed.

It wasn't the reason Leave won, but certainly played a massive role.

“Would we have won without immigration? No. Would we have won without £350m/NHS? All our research and the close result strongly suggests No. Would we have won by spending our time talking about trade and the Single Market? No way.” – Dominic Cummings – Vote Leave Campaign Director
 

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