Do you want to discuss boring politics? (28 Viewers)

[Grendel]

It’s a pretty strong claim. Or how about I go around making big statements without supporting them?

I assume it’s because of the ban of the practice some countries are now imposing

 

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[Sick Boy]

I assume it’s because of the ban of the practice some countries are now imposing

It's just yet another excuse for a bit of Muslim bashing, let's face it.

 

[Dougin]

It’s a pretty strong claim. Or how about I go around making big statements without supporting them?

It’s out there for all to see, google is your friend if you don’t believe me.

 

[Dougin]

It's just yet another excuse for a bit of Muslim bashing, let's face it.

Another one scared to give a true opinion on what they logically make of it.

 

[Grendel]

It's just yet another excuse for a bit of Muslim bashing, let's face it.

Probably but it is a grim practice

 

[Sick Boy]

Probably but it is a grim practice

I can't say it's something that appeals to me either, TBF.

 

[Sick Boy]

Another one scared to give a true opinion on what they logically make of it.

Get back to posting your donkey GIFs.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I assume it’s because of the ban of the practice some countries are now imposing

The royal families of Europe were more incestuous than any others around 150-200 years ago.

Yes, first cousin relationships should be illegal and forced marriage already is in this country isn’t it?

 

[Grendel]

The royal families of Europe were more incestuous than any others around 150-200 years ago.

Yes, first cousin relationships should be illegal and forced marriage already is in this country isn’t it?

I think quoting what was normal 200 years ago is more proving the archaic argument.

It’s pretty obvious coercion and control get round the forced argument

 

[Marty]

I have read that about 30% of all birth defects are from Pakistani first cousin marriages.

 

[Dougin]

Surely when the NHS is on its knees, the economy is on its knees. This should be something that is changed straight away.

But no because we have career politicians in charge who don’t really care and only worryabout unsettling the boat.

 

[SBAndy]

Just wondered what people thoughts are on first cousin marriages which the majority of Muslims do.

A friend’s wife is a paediatric nurse. She says the amount of babies born with defects due to this inbreeding is massive.

The cost for the UK must billlions in medical bills, disability payments, cars provided to families, etc etc.

Surely it’s time to put a stop to this.

Put a stop to what, exactly?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Surely when the NHS is on its knees, the economy is on its knees. This should be something that is changed straight away.

But no because we have career politicians in charge who don’t really care and only worryabout unsettling the boat.

Thought unsettling the boats is what we wanted?

 

[chiefdave]

Surely when the NHS is on its knees, the economy is on its knees. This should be something that is changed straight away

I've got no problem with changing the law around this but if you did that would you not have to make some provision for existing marriages?

What do countries that have already outlawed this do when a married couple tries to move there?

 

[Dougin]

Thought unsettling the boats is what we wanted?

It would certainly help, grannies might be able to heat their homes then. It’s people like you that are sending this country in a downward spiral.

 

[rob9872]

Probably depends how fit your cousin is I guess.

 

[Dougin]

I've got no problem with changing the law around this but if you did that would you not have to make some provision for existing marriages?

What do countries that have already outlawed this do when a married couple tries to move there?

It would have to just be from going forward.

Anyone that flouts the law should face whatever punishment is deemed necessary and be stripped of any right to claim benefits.

it must be costing us billions and billions and in total suffering for the children that are born with these defects for life.

 

[Captain Dart]

Why do you think Norway and Sweden have just banded it.

Did they? Not yet.

Are any countries in Europe currently considering legal changes to ban first cousin marriages?

Yes, several European countries are actively considering or advancing legal changes to ban first-cousin marriages, primarily driven by concerns over health risks to offspring (such as doubled chances of birth defects), forced marriages, and honor-based oppression. These efforts have gained momentum in recent years, particularly in Scandinavia, amid rising immigration from regions where the practice is more common. Below is a summary of the key countries based on the latest developments as of October 2025:Sweden

• Status: The government has formally proposed a ban on first-cousin marriages (and those between uncles/aunts and nieces/nephews) as part of amendments to the Marriage Code. The proposal, from a special commission report released on October 8, 2024, recommends implementation by July 1, 2026, and non-recognition of foreign cousin marriages.
• Rationale: Focuses on protecting against "honor oppression" and coercion, especially among women and girls, rather than solely genetic risks (though these are acknowledged).
• Progress: The bill is under parliamentary review; Minister of Justice Gunnar Strömmer has endorsed it as a step toward broader anti-oppression laws.

Denmark

• Status: Discussions and proposals are underway to prohibit the practice, following Norway's 2024 ban. Scandinavian neighbors are coordinating efforts, with Denmark cited in multiple reports as "considering action" alongside Sweden.
• Rationale: Similar to Sweden—health risks, prevention of forced unions, and social control—linked to immigrant communities from the Middle East and North Africa.
• Progress: No formal bill yet, but government inquiries are active, with potential legislation eyed for 2025.

United Kingdom

• Status: A private member's bill (Marriage (Prohibited Degrees of Relationship) Bill), introduced by Conservative MP Richard Holden in December 2024, seeks to add first cousins to the list of prohibited relationships under the Marriage Act. It had its first reading in December 2024 and is scheduled for second reading in January 2025.
• Rationale: Public health (e.g., higher risks of recessive disorders like cystic fibrosis), ethical concerns, and alignment with recent bans in Norway and Sweden. Critics argue it's eugenic or culturally insensitive.
• Progress: The Labour government under PM Keir Starmer has faced criticism for potentially blocking or delaying it, but it's still under debate in the House of Commons. NHS statements in September 2025 highlighted some cultural benefits but acknowledged health drawbacks.

Other Mentions

• Netherlands: Recent debates have escalated to the prime ministerial level, with proposals for a ban to address immigration-related family reunifications and health concerns. No bill has been introduced yet, but it's part of ongoing policy discussions.
• Broader Context: Norway's ban took effect in June 2024, influencing neighbors. No major proposals in other Western European countries (e.g., France, Germany, Italy) as of now, though academic and media discussions reference Europe's historical shift away from the practice via medieval Church bans.

These initiatives reflect a mix of medical evidence (e.g., from studies like Born in Bradford) and social policy goals. Outcomes depend on parliamentary votes, but momentum is building in the Nordic region. For real-time updates, I recommend checking official government sites like the Swedish Parliament or UK Hansard. If you'd like details on a specific country or related health data, let me know!

 

[Dougin]

Norway banned it last year. Sweden in process of.

 

[Dougin]

Cousin marriage: The new evidence about children's ill health - BBC News

A major study has found first cousin-parentage may have wider consequences than previously thought.

www.bbc.com

 

[Dougin]

 

[nicksar]

I watched this a few months ago...I have no strong opinions on the matter.
However as the Father of a severely disabled Son I think looking at anything seriously that could reduce the risk of disability is worthwhile.

 

[Captain Dart]

Funny trying to pin that on Reeves/Labour.

If you want to find someone to blame for the high numbers of foreign people taking jobs in this country then that person is obviously De Pfeffel.

For the hard of understanding I repeat that I did say ALL PARTIES ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.

 

[Dougin]

I’m sorry, it’s just a medieval practice and barbaric and does not fit into a western society.

It’s causing zero integration into the Western Society. Western people are always being told to accept and integrate yet the people that come to live here have no interested in integrating whatsoever.

 

[PVA]

For the hard of understanding I repeat that I did say ALL PARTIES ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.

It was aimed at the author of the article, not you.