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TomRad85

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Yes they've really made this a very murky subject now haven't they .

Mental really
From what I've seen the response of American Conservatives has generally not been favourable towards what's been said here. They are pretty consistent on the speech thing honestly.
It's the one thing I think America just bodies us at. 'Hate speech' is and always has been absolute drivel. Where is the line? Who decides?
 

Evo1883

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From what I've seen the response of American Conservatives has generally not been favourable towards what's been said here. They are pretty consistent on the speech thing honestly.
It's the one thing I think America just bodies us at. 'Hate speech' is and always has been absolute drivel. Where is the line? Who decides?
Il shorten my response to this , the right seem to get offended by hurty wurty words too , unsurprisingly.
They dont actually believe in free speech , only the speech they want to pass as acceptable
 
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TomRad85

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Il shorten my response to this , the right seem to get offended by hurty wurty words too , unsurprisingly.
They dont actually believe in free speech , only the speech they want to pass as acceptable
Offended sure but I don't think the police should be after people for words full stop really, or at least far far more rarely than they do. This is probably a separate topic as I am now really talking about the UK, but if people have been in favour of this shit they shouldn't really be surprised when it circles back around.
Politics goes in cycles after all and suddenly when the people at the top change and decide what is and isn't acceptable, people may find themselves in the firing line. Be careful what you wish for and all that.
 

Otis

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Offended sure but I don't think the police should be after people for words full stop really, or at least far far more rarely than they do. This is probably a separate topic as I am now really talking about the UK, but if people have been in favour of this shit they shouldn't really be surprised when it circles back around.
Politics goes in cycles after all and suddenly when the people at the top change and decide what is and isn't acceptable, people may find themselves in the firing line. Be careful what you wish for and all that.
Yeah, I can't see the police ever stopping acting over things people have said. Depends what is said doesn't it

Like, if someone said "I am going to rape your 10 year old daughter", you can't NOT police that. There has to be boundaries and that's why true free speech will never ever work.

We can have more free speech, but people cannot just say whatever they want any time they want.

You can't go round shooting racial abuse, such as the likes Kasey Palmer got

I know there are race laws and hate speech etc, but what I am saying is you can't ever have true free speech, as some are advocating. Free speech with zero consequence for what you say

Unfortunately, the police will always have to be involved in certain cases
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Il shorten my response to this , the right seem to get offended by hurty wurty words too , unsurprisingly.
They dont actually believe in free speech , only the speech they want to pass as acceptable

I would caveat this by saying an overwhelming majority of either side doesn't seem to really understand what the actual definition of free speech is to be honest, or, perhaps more crucially, it's limitations.

I'd say the same applies to the UK though as well.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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From what I've seen the response of American Conservatives has generally not been favourable towards what's been said here. They are pretty consistent on the speech thing honestly.
It's the one thing I think America just bodies us at. 'Hate speech' is and always has been absolute drivel. Where is the line? Who decides?
Well, it used to. Then a fascist got in and was declared to be above the law, so he started filing lawsuits against the press and demanding the firing of anyone for criticising him.
 

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