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[Grendel]

I haven't actually called them conservative. You're the one who tried to claim they're far-left, which is full on insane.

I think countries like Iran have mostly state ownership of means of production

 

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[bigfatronssba]

That is not what makes them conservative or not.

That’s what the word conservative means. To conserve. Be hesitant of change

 

[bigfatronssba]

So rightist traits become leftist traits when they're exported?

Have we got you right there?

In some circumstances yes. If they’re trying to overturn/change that nation’s society into something new

 

[Sick Boy]

In some circumstances yes. If they’re trying to overturn/change that nation’s society into something new

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That’s what the word conservative means. To conserve. Be hesitant of change

They see themselves as preserving their own traditional values. No different to Christian fundamentalists in the US.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Left wing:

State ownership of assets
The rights of society are greater than the individual
Borders and countries don’t matter. We’re all one

Right wing:

Private ownership of assets
The rights of the individual are greater than society
Borders and countries matter. Nationality is important.


Now please explain which of these Islamic fundamentalism is most like?

 

[bigfatronssba]

They see themselves as preserving their own traditional values. No different to Christian fundamentalists in the US.

But they are the values of this country. So from our point of view they represent radical change. It’s not conservatism to us

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But they are the values of this country. So from our point of view they represent radical change. It’s not conservatism to us

That. Is. Not. The. Definition.

 

[bigfatronssba]

That. Is. Not. The. Definition.

Google says different mate

 

[Sick Boy]

This is one of the most insane things i've ever read on here.

 

[rondog1973]

Great pre-match entertainment

 

[skyblueinBaku]

I don't see any evidence from this year that suggests it's even close. I have noticed an uptick in public disorder in Democratic parts of the country who don't want Trump's fascist interference in their states/towns/cities. When masked goons are going around these areas just randomly grabbing people off the street, people understandably won't tolerate it.

There was no armed insurrection to attempt to prevent Trump taking power this year either, unlike what Trump himself incited after he lost in 2020. It also remains to be seen what the motive of Kirk's murderer was which we can't know until he's been caught.

Uptick? Do you mean "increase"?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Uptick? Do you mean "increase"?

Is that really why you're angry at the post?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Google says different mate

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They completely fit with definition 1. Massive own goal.

 

[chiefdave]

Just when you thought the forum couldn't get any more batshit insane

 

[tisza]

Sums the man up.

This in the replies is nuts too



As if any proof were needed that he cares about no one and nothing but himself.

said it before on here he's got many of the traits of a proper sociopath

 

[SBT]

This is one of the most insane things i've ever read on here.

Can we not just ask someone from Hamas to fill in one of those Political Compass surveys and be done with it once and for all?

 

[ajsccfc]

ISIS are scary enough. But Woke ISIS?

Caves rebranded as safe spaces

 

[Otis]

Caves rebranded as safe spaces

Caveman care in the community?

Nationalising donkeys?

 

[SBT]

Caves rebranded as safe spaces

Mandatory tribal land acknowledgment ceremonies before all suicide bombings.

 

[duffer]

In the west they aren’t Conservative. Conservatism means to conserve.
There is nothing in the west that Islamic fundamentalists want to conserve

So by that definition, every single act of terrorism ever, would be left wing, because it is against "conserving" what exists. Christ, Trump was leading a left wing insurrection all this time. Proud boys, leftie scum.

I'm not sure that really stands up. I suspect the problem is an overly literal use of language without context; jumping from 'conserve' (as in retain) to 'Conservatism' (a political belief). They're not quite the same thing.

Quick question: Do you think that baby oil is made from babies?

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

Left wing:
State ownership of assets
The rights of society are greater than the individual
Borders and countries don’t matter. We’re all one

Right wing:
Private ownership of assets
The rights of the individual are greater than society
Borders and countries matter. Nationality is important.


Now please explain which of these Islamic fundamentalism is most like?

Sorry fella, but you've had a mare here. I'm heading to the game shortly but, briefly:

Islamic fundamentalism is opposed to `the rights of society'. Its Authoritarian - the ultimate aim is to enforce (`conserve' if you like) gods law, hierarchy of sex etc - (ironically much like Kirks Christian Conservatism).
Private ownership of assets is positively encouraged - under those strict religious rules