Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (70 Viewers)

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

A five year plan is pretty standard in business and politics.

It is - but football isn’t a normal business is it. If you can make money on it it’s best to get out asap.

At the moment Doug is at his reputational highest point with an investment that can go for whatever he wants.

That relationship can turn sour in a day…. See yesterday

 

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[WebbCCFC]

Although I'm disappointed with how yesterday went, the focus now has to be contract extensions for the first team players with contracts up in 2027. If we dip into free agents for back ups, Josh Dasilva would be good depending on where he is with his injury recovery. Jayden Braaf could be worth a look as a back up winger, was highly rated at Man City and released by Hellas Verona yesterday.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Yes. This is a big season for the club or we're into another rebuild I think with Rudi MVE and Haji probably all moving on

That’s the worry. Unless we get promoted this season there is no way that Wright, Rudoni and van Ewijk are here at the end of next summer and then it’s another big rebuild.

 

[Hullinho87]

Hes limited his investment in assets that have a greater chance to depreciate quickly in players.

It would be great if you could quantify this with some fact or even context?

 

[ceetee]

More than likely we’ll play with two 8s again this year at some point so think you’ll be correct.

It is a shame but the step up from academy to championship is huge.

Yes and made worse by the change from U23 to U21 competition. It generally leaves the older academy lads in limbo

 

[Speedie's Head]

Based on the 15m for 10% of shares? We don’t know where that money come from

I wasn't thinking of that because that's new.

If you imagine that promotion and parachute money brings in well over £100m on its own, while we have players under collectively worth a good bit on the open transfer market, a club considered to be oin the up with a pretty big and loyal fan base in a 1 club city.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club isn't "worth" £250-300m with the stadium, even as a top 6 championship club. That's how he's able to get the investment to buy the stadium.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I wasn't thinking of that because that's new.

If you imagine that promotion and parachute money brings in well over £100m on its own, while we have players under collectively worth a good bit on the open transfer market, a club considered to be oin the up with a pretty big and loyal fan base in a 1 club city.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club isn't "worth" £250-300m with the stadium, even as a top 6 championship club. That's how he's able to get the investment to buy the stadium.

Burnley went for what 80m? We’re not worth anything near 250m.

isn’t Doug also a hedge fund manager? They’re not known for long term are they

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I wasn't thinking of that because that's new.

If you imagine that promotion and parachute money brings in well over £100m on its own, while we have players under collectively worth a good bit on the open transfer market, a club considered to be oin the up with a pretty big and loyal fan base in a 1 club city.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club isn't "worth" £250-300m with the stadium, even as a top 6 championship club. That's how he's able to get the investment to buy the stadium.

Sheffield United only sold for £100m last christmas.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Burnley went for what 80m? We’re not worth anything near 250m.

isn’t Doug also a hedge fund manager? They’re not known for long term are they

Its honestly mental.

 

[mrtrench]

It is - but football isn’t a normal business is it. If you can make money on it it’s best to get out asap.

At the moment Doug is at his reputational highest point with an investment that can go for whatever he wants.

That relationship can turn sour in a day…. See yesterday

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that I don't know and there is no evidence to support one position or another. I don't think that setting a 5 year plan is evidence that he intends to sell quick once he'd turned the club around.

 

[Speedie's Head]

Yes and made worse by the change from U23 to U21 competition. It generally leaves the older academy lads in limbo

You're expected to use the loan system these days but fans don't like seeing young talent going to L2 or L1 or even Scotland! Just look at the reaction to Rapha but the lad needs to play every week at this stage.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

That’s the worry. Unless we get promoted this season there is no way that Wright, Rudoni and van Ewijk are here at the end of next summer and then it’s another big rebuild.

Exactly, and we haven’t brought any new potential talent in to then hopefully replace the likes of Rudoni, Wright, MVE etc, or even if they didn’t exactly replace that quality we’d still hopefully have players to nurture and bring on. There’s no way we can nurture the likes of Allen, Eccles, Lati, Bidwell any further. I know we got the stadium but as squad going forward we’re really lacking in quality on the bench for when we get injuries or sell good players in the next window. Disappointing window imo.

 

[Speedie's Head]

Sheffield United only sold for £100m last christmas.

Turf Moor ain't going to cut the mustard with anyone let's face it. At least they own their ground though!

The likes of Palace are valued close to £1bn!

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that I don't know and there is no evidence to support one position or another. I don't think that setting a 5 year plan is evidence that he intends to sell quick once he'd turned the club around.

Its more the events since then. Doug isn't a long term football investment person. In football - the best thing you can is get in, either get promoted quickly or do what hes done with us. Clear the debt, clean up the operation, get all the assets in order.

I just don't think Doug is a gambling man, he's spent about (guessing now) £30m of his own money + £40m on the stadium, If he can flip the operation for £100m which is entirely possible right now, He's made £30m profit.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I suppose we’re going to see plenty of weeks between now and January where Brau or KKH are closing games out on the wings. Which is uhhhh something to uhhhhh look forward to?

It would be sensible in games like Saturday where we're leading to be fair

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It would be sensible in games like Saturday where we're leading to be fair

It is slightly risk averse to bring on Brau at LW at 2-1 up with 40 minutes to go.

 

[AOM]

I really think this will be the last season with King.

He's finally united the Stadium and the club which will strengthen his investment and resale value.

Hes limited his investment in assets that have a greater chance to depreciate quickly in players.

I think his CBO will be sourcing a buyer throughout this year.

Yeah, I think he'll be looking to sell up in the next year or two.
Never really got the feeling it was a long term thing for Doug, and now we're a whole package, surely we're a more attractive prospect for buyers

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

We were bidding £10m on Charlie Hughes. Money wasn't an issue.

Money is always an issue

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Money is always an issue

You can do a poo emoji but it’s true
Read Doug’s comments it’s always an issue
I’m not sure how it was ok but I’m not sure he’s rich enough to pour any money in without investors

 

[Warwickhunt]

We still did not get any wingers in and still allowed Raphael to go on loan? Irrelevant that someone says he is not ready! He can still do a 20 minute cameo off the bench to help out

 

[David O'Day]

We still did not get any wingers in and still allowed Raphael to go on loan? Irrelevant that someone says he is not ready! He can still do a 20 minute cameo off the bench to help out

can he? he hasn't been doing that much has he

Saka is back and so FL will use BTA as back up winger. It's telling of the standing Rapha has when the reserve striker is given minutes on the wing over him.

 

[Matt smith]

We still did not get any wingers in and still allowed Raphael to go on loan? Irrelevant that someone says he is not ready! He can still do a 20 minute cameo off the bench to help out

Just a hunch but I think we were after the winger from palace and it fell through late

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

I think the club was valued at around £150m even before the stadium deal.

Based on you making up a figure

 

[David O'Day]

Just a hunch but I think we were after the winger from palace and it fell through late

We were after someone as Turner said but it didn't happen.

 

[TomRad85]

I like our loans out this summer, seem better thought out to me. Will keep an eye on all the ones loaned domestically and take an interest in Bassette if only to see if they are likely to take up that option or not.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

We still did not get any wingers in and still allowed Raphael to go on loan? Irrelevant that someone says he is not ready! He can still do a 20 minute cameo off the bench to help out

Fl doesn’t agree

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Most of the teams in this division are a few injuries away from struggling for quality, we aren't alone in that. Our best 11 however is excellent, so we just need to take care of them.

Frank, that might mean you have to use these things called substitutes every now and then...

 

[AOM]

I like our loans out this summer, seem better thought out to me. Will keep an eye on all the ones loaned domestically and take an interest in Bassette if only to see if they are likely to take up that option or not.

Certainly interested to see how Raphael gets on in League One

 

[Warwickhunt]

Fl doesn’t agree

I appreciate that but im more a round peg in a round hole thinking! BTA does a job but when he's out on the wing his natural instinct is to come inside and run into congested space and lose the ball! A lot! A winger no matter what skill level does hold the line and stretch the field

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I appreciate that but im more a round peg in a round hole thinking! BTA does a job but when he's out on the wing his natural instinct is to come inside and run into congested space and lose the ball! A lot! A winger no matter what skill level does hold the line and stretch the field

He does well when theres space to run into, but imagine him trying to beat a full back against a low block.

 

[Deity]

Burnley went for what 80m? We’re not worth anything near 250m.

isn’t Doug also a hedge fund manager? They’re not known for long term are they

Depends on the fund type. Many are 3-5 years but there are some 10 years plus.

 

[Warwickhunt]

Do we get any money for Dom Hyams move to Wrexham?

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

No transfer window includes loans now so apart from emergency keepers we can’t bring anyone in apart from free age

Do we get any money for Dom Hyams move to Wrexham?

No

 

[David O'Day]

He does well when theres space to run into, but imagine him trying to beat a full back against a low block.

Why would he need to? When he has played on the RW recently he is centrally positioned when we have the ball and we use the full as the wide right forward player in the 3-1-6 shape we play. BTA is in an inside right role on the ball.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Why would he need to? When he has played on the RW recently he is centrally positioned when we have the ball and we use the full as the wide right forward player in the 3-1-6 shape we play. BTA is in an inside right role on the ball.

There were many times where he was out on the wide right regardless of how we were intending to play.