Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (41 Viewers)

[SkyBlueStallion_89]

It didnt help that random people would say stuff was brewing then people on here acting like they are insiders.

I don't even know why it bothers me so much, probably think it's just embarrassing to be honest mate, the sad ones are those that make several accounts talking utter shite

 

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[Speedie's Head]

We were bidding £10m on Charlie Hughes. Money wasn't an issue.

Were we though? One person's question "how much would it take to persuade you on xxx" suddenly becomes a firm offer on the gossip boards. I don't think they were anywhere close to smashing the club transfer record on an unproven CH. King just doesn't have that money to risk. His strategy hasn't changed it's 3 top 6 finishes in 5 years and hope that might be enough.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

We we though? One person's question "how much would it take to persuade you on xxx" suddenly becomes a firm offer on the gossip boards. I don't think they were anywhere close to smashing the club transfer record on an unproven CH. King just doesn't have that money to risk. His strategy hasn't changed it's 3 top 6 finishes in 5 years and hope that might be enough.

I love how our bid on Hughes during the window was "Why are you worried,we will sign players we have the money, we bid £10m on Hughes"

and when we dont sign anyone and the window closes its

"How do you know we actually bid? It might have just been a question to them"

 

[CCFCSteve]

If we’d been offered to be in this situation at the start of the summer there’s no way anyone would have said no.

Exactly. It was only a couple of weeks ago when we didn’t own the stadium and some were shitting the bed expecting Rudoni to be sold to Southampton

If someone had told me at the start of the summer that we’d have got £10m for Binks and sheaf, strengthened RB area and CB, got a keeper in to cover for Dovin and not sold any top players I’d have a snapped your hand off

 

[covcity4life]

He's a modern day Simon Cowell and everything that is wrong with football.

But many posters on here can't moan about state of football today considering they feel they were owed something on deadline day.

Saying club handled it all wrong by making them wait for someone they already knew coming etc

It's entitled and childish.

 

[Speedie's Head]

I love how our bid on Hughes during the window was "Why are you worried,we will sign players we have the money, we bid £10m on Hughes"

and when we dont sign anyone and the window closes its

"How do you know we actually bid? It might have just been a question to them"

I've been consistent throughout. I don't believe we "bid" for Rushworth either when we found out they wanted £5+m.

Just watch programmes like shed and buried if you want to see how this kind of process works, it's just the same.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I really think this will be the last season with King.

He's finally united the Stadium and the club which will strengthen his investment and resale value.

Hes limited his investment in assets that have a greater chance to depreciate quickly in players.

I think his CBO will be sourcing a buyer throughout this year.

That was my other thought. Woolfenden began weeks ago, now it seems that he’s doing the final tidying, slimming the club down ready to sell

 

[TomRad85]

Pretty happy that our defence can now cope with a couple of injuries at least. Decent depth there now. It's everywhere else that is the issue, in CM Eccles could come in for a bit and do ok, especially if Lampard can have the sort of impact on him he's had on the other midfielders. BTA has started well when looking at cover in the forward positions. After that though it starts to fall off a cliff. Hopefully we can make it to Jan without too many issues.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

That was my other thought. Woolfenden began weeks ago, now it seems that he’s doing the final tidying, slimming the club down ready to sell

He now has the stadium, a decent manager and infrastructure, a small but neat squad. He is certainly pruning it into a nice package to sell to somebody.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

He now has the stadium, a decent manager and infrastructure, a small but neat squad. He is certainly pruning it into a nice package to sell to somebody.

I thought about this when we bought the stadium. The ground loses money, ultimately it’s an asset for the total package. Doesn’t make sense to buy it until the last possible moment - is it potential the 15m was a deposit of sorts, most takeovers require such a deposit

 

[Sick Boy]

This is exactly it.

We've held on to our main players and signed a few, whilst having a very successful offload of those that are largely surplus to requirements. It's a window we all would have taken at the start.

The problem is the way they've handled it at the end, and the deflated feeling that it has left. It's come across, to me at least, as a bit lazy.

I still think we have a great squad, and believe we can be competitive for a playoff place this season, but a couple more in would have been nice.

I also meant owning the stadium, which pretty much seems to have been forgotten.

 

[pusbccfc]

I thought about this when we bought the stadium. The ground loses money, ultimately it’s an asset for the total package. Doesn’t make sense to buy it until the last possible moment - is it potential the 15m was a deposit of sorts, most takeovers require such a deposit

Ground has lost money but I'm sure part of that is because it's been run by people who don't know how to run it (the council), don't have the funds to run it properly (a rugby club) or aren't too bothered about running it well (Frasers).

Doug and the club will need to make money from it. They'll put more effort into making it a place people want to host events and concerts.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Ground has lost money but I'm sure part of that is because it's been run by people who don't know how to run it (the council), don't have the funds to run it properly (a rugby club) or aren't too bothered about running it well (Frasers).

Doug and the club will need to make money from it. They'll put more effort into making it a place people want to host events and concerts.

Possibly - but it’s a big asset to invest in and as we’ve seen, needs some maintenance investment.

we’ve never looked more attractive to an outside buyer then we do now

 

[Speedie's Head]

That was my other thought. Woolfenden began weeks ago, now it seems that he’s doing the final tidying, slimming the club down ready to sell

I think it's a mixture of managing the wage bill and getting the necessary playing time for the young players. King will sell at some point but I don't think it's in his immediate plans (unless he got a silly offer perhaps). The new players are still getting extended contracts for example.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Maybe. But what has he said or done to imply that he is in it for a quick turnaround and profit? He has never taken the short-term route. And if that really is his intention, then investing in a football team is not the most reliable way to make money.

But assuming that is his goal, surely the year we go up is when the big money appears. The stadium is only a stepping stone.

Assuming we go up is a silly assumption to make when holding an investment. We could be in the same position in 10 years time.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Assuming we go up is a silly assumption to make when holding an investment. We could be in the same position in 10 years time.

King obviously wants us as sustainable as possible in the meantime. Anything else is just gambling on promotion

 

[mrtrench]

I really think this will be the last season with King.

He's finally united the Stadium and the club which will strengthen his investment and resale value.

Hes limited his investment in assets that have a greater chance to depreciate quickly in players.

I think his CBO will be sourcing a buyer throughout this year.

Maybe. But what has he said or done to imply that he is in it for a quick turnaround and profit? He has never taken the short-term route. And if that really is his intention, then investing in a football team is not the most reliable way to make money.

But assuming that is his goal, surely the year we go up is when the big money appears. The stadium is only a stepping stone.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Maybe. But what has he said or done to imply that he is in it for a quick turnaround and profit? He has never taken the short-term route. And if that really is his intention, then investing in a football team is not the most reliable way to make money.

But assuming that is his goal, surely the year we go up is when the big money appears. The stadium is only a stepping stone.

Think it’s more when Doug first came in - everything appeared to be in a 5 year period - the rental agreement, the contracts play offs in 3/5 years.

Doug’s wealth doesn’t appear to be significantly enough to compete at the top end.

what he has done is tidied the club up, wiped the debts and paired it with its home. The club now has gone from worthless to possibly worth over 100m in 1 night.

Doug isn’t a football man, I very much doubt he’s in it for long term. Now yes - the premier league will mean a bigger value, but we’re at the stage now where he’s got to use his own money to get us there. For a non Coventry fan - you’d have to think is it worth the risk?

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I think it's a mixture of managing the wage bill and getting the necessary playing time for the young players. King will sell at some point but I don't think it's in his immediate plans (unless he got a silly offer perhaps). The new players are still getting extended contracts for example.

Our only player now that’s gonna have a contract expiry is Jamie Allen. Which wont be a big financial loss.

next year will be first raft of big name players. The contracts are going to go up sharply

 

[Speedie's Head]

what he has done is tidied the club up, wiped the debts and paired it with its home. The club now has gone from worthless to possibly worth over 100m in 1 night.

I think the club was valued at around £150m even before the stadium deal.

 

[mrtrench]

Think it’s more when Doug first came in - everything appeared to be in a 5 year period - the rental agreement, the contracts play offs in 3/5 years.

A five year plan is pretty standard in business and politics.

 

[Speedie's Head]

Our only player now that’s gonna have a contract expiry is Jamie Allen. Which wont be a big financial loss.

next year will be first raft of big name players. The contracts are going to go up sharply

Yes. This is a big season for the club or we're into another rebuild I think with Rudi MVE and Haji probably all moving on

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I think the club was valued at around £150m even before the stadium deal.

Based on the 15m for 10% of shares? We don’t know where that money come from

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Based on the 15m for 10% of shares? We don’t know where that money come from

Yes a club without a stadium wouldnt be valued to a buyer at £150m, half of that if lucky.

 

[jordan210]

Announce random free agent to cheer us all up

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

A five year plan is pretty standard in business and politics.

It is - but football isn’t a normal business is it. If you can make money on it it’s best to get out asap.

At the moment Doug is at his reputational highest point with an investment that can go for whatever he wants.

That relationship can turn sour in a day…. See yesterday

 

[WebbCCFC]

Although I'm disappointed with how yesterday went, the focus now has to be contract extensions for the first team players with contracts up in 2027. If we dip into free agents for back ups, Josh Dasilva would be good depending on where he is with his injury recovery. Jayden Braaf could be worth a look as a back up winger, was highly rated at Man City and released by Hellas Verona yesterday.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Yes. This is a big season for the club or we're into another rebuild I think with Rudi MVE and Haji probably all moving on

That’s the worry. Unless we get promoted this season there is no way that Wright, Rudoni and van Ewijk are here at the end of next summer and then it’s another big rebuild.

 

[Hullinho87]

Hes limited his investment in assets that have a greater chance to depreciate quickly in players.

It would be great if you could quantify this with some fact or even context?

 

[ceetee]

More than likely we’ll play with two 8s again this year at some point so think you’ll be correct.

It is a shame but the step up from academy to championship is huge.

Yes and made worse by the change from U23 to U21 competition. It generally leaves the older academy lads in limbo

 

[Speedie's Head]

Based on the 15m for 10% of shares? We don’t know where that money come from

I wasn't thinking of that because that's new.

If you imagine that promotion and parachute money brings in well over £100m on its own, while we have players under collectively worth a good bit on the open transfer market, a club considered to be oin the up with a pretty big and loyal fan base in a 1 club city.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club isn't "worth" £250-300m with the stadium, even as a top 6 championship club. That's how he's able to get the investment to buy the stadium.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I wasn't thinking of that because that's new.

If you imagine that promotion and parachute money brings in well over £100m on its own, while we have players under collectively worth a good bit on the open transfer market, a club considered to be oin the up with a pretty big and loyal fan base in a 1 club city.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club isn't "worth" £250-300m with the stadium, even as a top 6 championship club. That's how he's able to get the investment to buy the stadium.

Burnley went for what 80m? We’re not worth anything near 250m.

isn’t Doug also a hedge fund manager? They’re not known for long term are they

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I wasn't thinking of that because that's new.

If you imagine that promotion and parachute money brings in well over £100m on its own, while we have players under collectively worth a good bit on the open transfer market, a club considered to be oin the up with a pretty big and loyal fan base in a 1 club city.

It wouldn't surprise me if the club isn't "worth" £250-300m with the stadium, even as a top 6 championship club. That's how he's able to get the investment to buy the stadium.

Sheffield United only sold for £100m last christmas.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Burnley went for what 80m? We’re not worth anything near 250m.

isn’t Doug also a hedge fund manager? They’re not known for long term are they

Its honestly mental.

 

[mrtrench]

It is - but football isn’t a normal business is it. If you can make money on it it’s best to get out asap.

At the moment Doug is at his reputational highest point with an investment that can go for whatever he wants.

That relationship can turn sour in a day…. See yesterday

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that I don't know and there is no evidence to support one position or another. I don't think that setting a 5 year plan is evidence that he intends to sell quick once he'd turned the club around.