Do you want to discuss boring politics? (40 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

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For fuck's sake. God help us.

Fucking hell, I didn’t realise this was actually serious.

 

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[torchomatic]

Fucking hell, I didn’t realise this was actually serious.

It's a fucking joke.

 

[Captain Dart]

It’s portion sizes rather than carbs that are the problem, IMO - unless we’re talking stuff like processed bread.

You are wrong. The body processes carbs differently to fat and proteins. Animal derived fats and proteins are also more nutrient dense.

Anyway you do your thing as you see fit, I just do what works for me.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You are wrong. The body processes carbs differently to fat and proteins. Animal derived fats and proteins are also more nutrient dense.

Anyway you do your thing as you see fit, I just do what works for me.

Carnivore diet?

 

[Sick Boy]

You are wrong. The body processes carbs differently to fat and proteins. Animal derived fats and proteins are also more nutrient dense.

Anyway you do your thing as you see fit, I just do what works for me.

I eat 100g of pasta 5 or 6 days a week without any problems. It’s 100% portion sizes that are the problem.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I eat 100g of pasta 5 or 6 days a week without any problems. It’s 100% portion sizes that are the problem.

I agree. Portion control in the UK is completely warped

 

[Captain Dart]

Carnivore diet?

More ketogenic, meat/fish/eggs with some veg and dairy but the main thing is avoidance of carbs like bread, pasta, pizza, rice, chips, pies & anything in a package though I err now and again.

I grow veg on an allotment but end up giving most of it away.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

More ketogenic, meat/fish/eggs with some veg and dairy but the main thing is avoidance of carbs like bread, pasta, pizza, rice, chips, pies & anything in a package though I err now and again.

I grow veg on an allotment but end up giving most of it away.

I am very concerned about how often you are using that emoji in posts recently

 

[chiefdave]

Forgot to mention this added bonus. On more than one occasion when I’ve actually managed to get an appointment to see my GP when I’ve gone to the appointment there's come a point where the person I'm seeing has said 'I can't deal with that, you'll need to see a doctor'.

The last government had a plan to make more appointments available by bringing in a level between practice nurses and GPs. ANPs who could prescribe and treat routine things. Not a bad idea, right?

Except the implementation has been appalling. To encourage uptake the cost of employing an ANP is subsidised by the government. So what actually happened was practices replaced some of their GPs with ANPs. Same number of appointments so NHS management doesn't complain but they've saved money and therefore make more profit.

We've got the crazy situation where it's a nightmare trying to get a GP appointment yet we have a load of unemployed GPs, who increasingly are moving overseas, and newly qualified GPs struggling to find a job.

 

[Captain Dart]

I am very concerned about how often you are using that emoji in posts recently

 

[chiefdave]

Reform warns it wouldn't take Liz Truss or Suella Braverman if they decided to leave the Tories amid concerns they would damage the party's image

 

[Grendel]

Forgot to mention this added bonus. On more than one occasion when I’ve actually managed to get an appointment to see my GP when I’ve gone to the appointment there's come a point where the person I'm seeing has said 'I can't deal with that, you'll need to see a doctor'.

The last government had a plan to make more appointments available by bringing in a level between practice nurses and GPs. ANPs who could prescribe and treat routine things. Not a bad idea, right?

Except the implementation has been appalling. To encourage uptake the cost of employing an ANP is subsidised by the government. So what actually happened was practices replaced some of their GPs with ANPs. Same number of appointments so NHS management doesn't complain but they've saved money and therefore make more profit.

We've got the crazy situation where it's a nightmare trying to get a GP appointment yet we have a load of unemployed GPs, who increasingly are moving overseas, and newly qualified GPs struggling to find a job.

Have you considered changing your doctor?

 

[Grendel]

Surely that's common sense though? If he eats the same but isn't doing the same physical graft then that's going to happen.

Obviously

I can’t believe the NHS is now giving weight loss jabs on the NHS. If you eat less you lose weight.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

. If you eat less you lose weight.

Piece of piss then

 

[Grendel]

Piece of piss then

No one says it is. It requires effort and crucially accountability.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No one says it is. It requires effort and crucially accountability.

There is a reason why the overwhelming majority of people put the weight back on even if successful. There is more to it than mere will power.

 

[tisza]

accountability

That's probably a word that's out of date these days

 

[Grendel]

There is a reason why the overwhelming majority of people put the weight back on even if successful. There is more to it than mere will power.

Do people want to look for reasons to avoid blame and accountability?

 

[Grendel]

That's probably a word that's out of date these days

Far easier to expect the tax payer to wipe your arse

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Do people want to look for reasons to avoid blame and accountability?

No. Just speaking from experience that what I did succeeded in shifting 90 lbs before it plateaued at a weight that is still several stone too high.

 

[Grendel]

No. Just speaking from experience that what I did succeeded in shifting 90 lbs before it plateaued at a weight that is still several stone too high.

I have no issue with people paying for medication but I do not see why the state should fund it.

I know a 35 year old woman who was bragging she has got the jab for free. She’s ridiculously fat and constantly fills her face. She’s also type 2 diabetic. She refuses to blame herself and she blames it on her previously undiagnosed ADHD and anxiety. The diagnosis didn’t stop her filling her face.

Bear in mind here I was considered an alcoholic in my 20’s. I have at times consumed easily 200 units a week. I had 20 years of sobriety and then started again.

I pay for therapy with someone who is an alcoholic. She also has had food addiction issues. I’ve been her for 3 years now.

We both are of the opinion the only way to get over any shame and guilt is to accept your role and take responsibility. Drugs generally don’t work A

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I have no issue with people paying for medication but I do not see why the state should fund it.

I know a 35 year old woman who was bragging she has got the jab for free. She’s ridiculously fat and constantly fills her face. She’s also type 2 diabetic. She refuses to blame herself and she blames it on her previously undiagnosed ADHD and anxiety. The diagnosis didn’t stop her filling her face.

Bear in mind here I was considered an alcoholic in my 20’s. I have at times consumed easily 200 units a week. I had 20 years of sobriety and then started again.

I pay for therapy with someone who is an alcoholic. She also has had food addiction issues. I’ve been her for 3 years now.

We both are of the opinion the only way to get over any shame and guilt is to accept your role and take responsibility. Drugs generally don’t work A

I personally refuse to take medication to get me to the weight I want, though it might be that the cost to the state of the prescription is less than the cost of obesity related complications.

The point stands that we encourage unhealthy eating habits in many ways then blame people for succumbing to them.

 

[Grendel]

I personally refuse to take medication to get me to the weight I want, though it might be that the cost to the state of the prescription is less than the cost of obesity related complications.

The point stands that we encourage unhealthy eating habits in many ways then blame people for succumbing to them.

We encourage booze and promote it. I don’t blame anyone but me

 

[Nick]

I personally refuse to take medication to get me to the weight I want, though it might be that the cost to the state of the prescription is less than the cost of obesity related complications.

The point stands that we encourage unhealthy eating habits in many ways then blame people for succumbing to them.

Let's face it, people have a choice of what they eat. I can say that myself I've been a lazy bastard and eaten rubbish and noticed.

They don't have to eat rubbish.