It's ok the ref saying they are 5 yards away but what about in stadiums when fans can see something is wrong and then replays confirm it, even though the ref was 5 yards away.
Then the ref has made a big mistake, it happens. Sadly happened against us quite a bit so far.
Which means refs shouldn't really be giving it the "I was 5 yards away" attitude.
Playing Sunday mornings a few years ago you would often get refs who thought they were doing the champions League final and others who were on the same level as the players and just had a laugh.
I’m sure you had players who also took themselves too seriously. We can’t get enough referees in the first place which is how you end up with poorer quality at the top. So really it starts with changing things at the grassroots and being patient.
It’s not so much giving it the I was 5 yards away proving a point but the nature of decision making
It’s also why anyone who’s not given it a go needs to do so as it gives you a different perspective and if you’re going to be a pundit or coach or manage you really should make sure you know enough about the laws to engage
As bsb says mistakes happen
If there’s no corruption or bias - which I’m happy if someone wants to show facts and evidence, then I think all have to work together to improve decision making and how does that happen in normal activity
High expectation
Feedback and review
Development and discussion
All of which could be better
I watched Gary O'Neil after match interview and thought his comments were very rationale considering what his team suffered last night and so far this season .Sooner or later decisions have to go his way on law of averages. The time it takes to make decisions with VAR involved and still they get it wrong.
"Headbutt not agressive enough" come on .What do you want blood everywhere ?By it's very nature a headbutt on a football pitch should be a sending off affair.Pete you know the rules better than me why did Ream not go when Wolves got their pen?
Managers fall by such bad decisions we are seeing more and more when refs. have all the technology at hand.
"Headbutt not agressive enough" come on .What do you want blood everywhere ?By it's very nature a headbutt on a football pitch should be a sending off affair.Pete you know the rules better than me why did Ream not go when Wolves got their pen?
Managers fall by such bad decisions we are seeing more and more when refs. have all the technology at hand.
Haven’t seen it I’m sorry
Normally if it’s a genuine attempt for the ball it’s yc not rc in the box
It looked out but impossible for anyone on the pitch to be certain. Play to the whistle, great goal.
Gave some soft free kicks last 10 but overall thought he was good
I didn't think it was a genuine attempt but even a yellow card didn't appear he was booked in the first half .The head butt i've said enough about that.If you went tonight what were your thoughts on the linesman our side of the pitch.
Surprised to see praise for the ref, thought he was awful.
Linesman said it was only half out, those were the words of the plymouth manager.
Not that his vision was obscured or he couldn't be sure, and linesman had the best view on the pitch and much better than some screen shots from TV from a very poor angle to judge.
Thought the ref was 85/100 tonight
Assistants have it tough. Thought it wasn’t a free kick but I’m behind the goal the other end and one offside not given looked off but I’m behind the goal
As a team I thought they were good
That’s what they want you to think.
The Ref and the lino on the side opposite the bench were awful.
Pretty sure at the start of the game one of our players kicked it out and he gave a goal kick.
Pretty sure at the start of the game one of our players kicked it out and he gave a goal kick.
A reminder of our decision against Hull a few years back .
Will never know without technology.
It's not miles out as the Plymouth fans are.
this is my point, it looks out and likely is out but there's no angle that says it is 100% out
I think someone above had the right answer - the ref was blocked and the linesman could'nt rightly say the ball was out as he also could'nt see it - we deserved a bit of fortune as there were two offsides that were'nt and we ( possibly) could have scored either - luck ran our way - onwards and upwards
Much rather have rubbish officials than VAR.
But there is an angle to show it 100% in. Check out and freeze the City Unseen video