Match Thread Huddersfield (H) Mon 25/09 (2 Viewers)

procdoc

Well-Known Member
Apr 5, 2011
8,069
8,006
263
At the risk of sounding derogatory to the players, the diamond thing is just too complicated unless you are in a side that knows the way each other plays. We have had a lot of changes and surely bedding them in with a simple 442 would sort out everything. Play Sakamoto as the wide midfielder safe in the knowledge that there is a full back behind him to cover the space. Id be interested if any of you guys play/played in the diamond for your clubs and how you found it was to play?
We don’t play a diamond formation. We play 3-4-1-2 effectively. The diamond is 4-1-2-1-2.
For our current formation to work you need the two deep midfielders to be defensively sound and have one of them be more box to box. That requires a lot of energy which neither Kelly or Eccles possess. That’s why I assume we bought in Ayari. At the moment the two defensive midfielders play too far apart from Palmer. As poor as he has been in recent games he does need more support from the other two. I’d like to see Wright drift into the left channel more and find space out there. At the moment he tries to drop into the hole but is closed down quickly so a loose touch is quickly anticipated by the opposition defence or midfield.
If we do revert to the box then Jamie Allen needs to come in. He’s got the energy to get around the pitch and support the main forward and is also a goal threat.
There is a lot for Robins and his team to iron out, hoping this happens sooner rather than later. I actually think Wright has a lot of ability and makes intelligent runs. The midfield just can’t seem to take advantage of this
 

napolimp

Well-Known Member
Sep 2, 2014
2,532
2,363
163
I've got a funny feeling we're going to get a big win here, and everyone's going to be confused as to how to react.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SkyBlueSam01

ProfessorbyGrace

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2021
1,342
1,031
213
With MVE out with a quad tear, this is looking increasingly worrying…

Eccles at RWB or having to switch DaSilva there (as suggested in another thread) doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.

I would happily take the most scrappy, disjointed, appalling 1-0 off Wilson’s crotch in the 93rd minute at this stage. PUSB.
 

Offhegoes

Well-Known Member
Mar 14, 2014
1,072
1,259
213
I think he will start Simms, Allen, Ayari and Kitching.
Allen for MVE (Eccles moves to RWB)
Kitching for Binks
Ayari for Palmer
Simms for Wright
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
Jan 11, 2012
53,057
34,666
763
Coventry
With MVE out with a quad tear, this is looking increasingly worrying…

Eccles at RWB or having to switch DaSilva there (as suggested in another thread) doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.

I would happily take the most scrappy, disjointed, appalling 1-0 off Wilson’s crotch in the 93rd minute at this stage. PUSB.
Only we can spend so much money in a transfer window and still end up with a depleted squad.
 

SBT

Well-Known Member
Sep 14, 2012
8,432
10,676
263
In previous seasons a serious injury has forced us into a better tactical system, maybe this will do the same.
Yeah, I was gonna say, the only silver lining here is that Robins is typically very good at dealing with this stuff.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
Jan 11, 2012
53,057
34,666
763
Coventry
I think Robins is going to have to give up whatever hopes he had of overhauling our playing style this season and just be as pragmatic as possible. It’s a bridge year now.
Would go with

Collins

JDS
Kitching
McF/Thomas
Lati

Kelly
Ayari

Saka
Palmer
Allen

Godden/Simms

The work rate of Saka and Allen should compensate for Palmer’s…positioning shall we say.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
Apr 25, 2015
2,892
3,230
163
God we need a win on Monday now. Feels like this season will stat snowballing if not.
 

napolimp

Well-Known Member
Sep 2, 2014
2,532
2,363
163
With MVE out with a quad tear, this is looking increasingly worrying…

Eccles at RWB or having to switch DaSilva there (as suggested in another thread) doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.

I would happily take the most scrappy, disjointed, appalling 1-0 off Wilson’s crotch in the 93rd minute at this stage. PUSB.

Could be out for rest of the season. You have to wonder why we keep on picking up these significant injuries. Always seems to be positions with no cover too, it's not like the 2 recent injuries could have been a CB, LWB, or forward.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TomRad85

Hertsccfc

Well-Known Member
Apr 29, 2018
5,942
5,656
263
I'd go

Wilson

Eccles
Latibeaudiere
McFadzean
Binks
Dasilva

Kelly
Ayari
Sakamoto
Allen/Palmer depending on fitness

Godden
 

steve101

Well-Known Member
Aug 5, 2010
1,861
1,992
163
The only players to justify starting from recent performances are Binks, Latibeudiere, Kelly and Godden. I would add Allen to the list too but doubt he will be fit enough to start.
 

procdoc

Well-Known Member
Apr 5, 2011
8,069
8,006
263
Not going to happen but as Shmeee suggested previously we Could try 4-2-3-1 with Sakamoto and Wright as inside forwards with Ayari in the 10 role.

Wilson
Lati Fadz Binks Dasilva
Kelly Eccles
Sakamoto Ayari Wright
Godden
 

Boicey

Well-Known Member
Aug 12, 2023
654
590
143
He needs to reorganise to get Simms, Ayari, Allen and Sakamoto in.
And get Palmer out.
Possibly in a 4 4 2.
Never going to happen.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Saddlebrains

Boicey

Well-Known Member
Aug 12, 2023
654
590
143
If it's basically the same starting 11 as Cardiff because Robins gave them a kick up the arse and demanded they go again I will despair.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Saddlebrains

Noble

Well-Known Member
Aug 11, 2023
102
99
128
With MvE out and calls for a changeup in the system I'd really like to see us have a go with a back 4 and try and give Sakamoto more game time in a wide attacking position.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
Dec 9, 2011
36,119
37,525
313
I think Robins is going to have to give up whatever hopes he had of overhauling our playing style this season and just be as pragmatic as possible. It’s a bridge year now.

TBH we've generally been better when we've been pragmatic e.g. the League 1 title winning season, we were playing a 4-3-3 possession based game that was flipped to 3-5-2 at half time of the Fleetwood due to injury iirc - we never looked back and McFadz (who came on at half time that night) hasn't either.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
Dec 9, 2011
36,119
37,525
313
He needs to reorganise to get Simms, Ayari, Allen and Sakamoto in.
And get Palmer out.
Possibly in a 4 4 2.
Never going to happen.

How, realistically are all 4 of them playing in a 4-4-2? a central midfield of Allen and Ayari? Who is on each wing?
 

SBT

Well-Known Member
Sep 14, 2012
8,432
10,676
263
TBH we've generally been better when we've been pragmatic e.g. the League 1 title winning season, we were playing a 4-3-3 possession based game that was flipped to 3-5-2 at half time of the Fleetwood due to injury iirc - we never looked back and McFadz (who came on at half time that night) hasn't either.
Yep - see also the L2 season where we gradually shifted from a mostly ineffective 4231 to a more pragmatic 442 after Andreu and Jones got injured.

You also have to think that to some extent the counter attacking style from last season came more out of necessity than design.

The issue here is that a Championship team shouldn’t really have to make such compromises seven games in after spending £20 million on new players
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
Apr 25, 2015
2,892
3,230
163
Godden - Wright/Simms
Saka
Dasilva - Kelly - Ayari - Eccles
Kitching/Binks - Fadz - Lati
Wilson

That's what I'd like to see unless MR is working on a major tactical shift in training this week (he isn't).
 

Boicey

Well-Known Member
Aug 12, 2023
654
590
143
How, realistically are all 4 of them playing in a 4-4-2? a central midfield of Allen and Ayari? Who is on each wing?
Probably just play Sakamoto as a winger and use Eccles in the 4. Or Dasila on the left, Sakamoto on the right and Bidwell cover as left back.
 

Boicey

Well-Known Member
Aug 12, 2023
654
590
143
Can't believe we've been relegated after 7 games for the second season in a row ffs

3-0 City
I guess you missed the poll where, checks notes, 2 people out of 101 said we'd be relegated?
And they were probably joking.
 

Users who are viewing this thread