Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (25 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Everyone is a potential harbinger of disease. Whitty and Vallance have already said we're likely to have to go into more restrictions again in the winter. This isn't over, even with the vaccine.

If only there had been a bit more paranoia over Christmas...

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We don't seem to learn. Before Xmas we had the scientists saying it was a bad idea and would lead to a surge in cases but anyone that mentioned that got the same 'you want to be in lockdown forever' line being thrown out now.

Not sure why everything has to be one extreme or the other. Its not total lockdown forever or a complete free for all. All that is being said is that allowing non-essential travel over the summer might not be the best plan. To be fair to the government they haven't actually said it will happen have they? Its just people making assumptions, and bookings, based on earnest possible dates in the roadmap.

Why would anyone look at what happened last year and say let's do the same again?

Coronavirus strain from Spain accounts for most UK cases – study

Experts say UK’s travel policy in summer was flawed as ‘the virus moves when people move’

www.theguardian.com

European holidays brought in 'over half of imported Covid cases' last summer | ITV News

Those aged 16-20 were responsible for greatest number of travel-related cases and onwards contacts. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

One minute we're point at the EU and mocking how badly their vaccination program is going and seeing rates and restrictions increasing but the next minute we're saying its fine to visit those countries for a holiday!

Yes, our vaccine program is going brilliantly but even if we stay on schedule it will be the end of July before everyone gets their first dose and that makes it mid October before everyone has their second dose (plus about two weeks for it to become active). Personally I'd rather have people having to holiday in the UK rather than risk going back into lockdown after the summer. I'd like to go to a match at some point this year!

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

We don't seem to learn. Before Xmas we had the scientists saying it was a bad idea and would lead to a surge in cases but anyone that mentioned that got the same 'you want to be in lockdown forever' line being thrown out now.

Not sure why everything has to be one extreme or the other. Its not total lockdown forever or a complete free for all. All that is being said is that allowing non-essential travel over the summer might not be the best plan. To be fair to the government they haven't actually said it will happen have they? Its just people making assumptions, and bookings, based on earnest possible dates in the roadmap.

Why would anyone look at what happened last year and say let's do the same again?

Coronavirus strain from Spain accounts for most UK cases – study

Experts say UK’s travel policy in summer was flawed as ‘the virus moves when people move’

www.theguardian.com

European holidays brought in 'over half of imported Covid cases' last summer | ITV News

Those aged 16-20 were responsible for greatest number of travel-related cases and onwards contacts. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

One minute we're point at the EU and mocking how badly their vaccination program is going and seeing rates and restrictions increasing but the next minute we're saying its fine to visit those countries for a holiday!

Yes, our vaccine program is going brilliantly but even if we stay on schedule it will be the end of July before everyone gets their first dose and that makes it mid October before everyone has their second dose (plus about two weeks for it to become active). Personally I'd rather have people having to holiday in the UK rather than risk going back into lockdown after the summer. I'd like to go to a match at some point this year!

I totally agree on overseas travel. Spend your money here where it’s sorely needed.

 

[BodicoteSkyBlue]

I went to Crete in 96 and was there for the start of the Euros. I say I went to Crete, it was the middle of the night when we arrived, it was the middle of the night when we left so really I just went to Malia. Never saw Crete. Like all of Greece it’s the people that make it great for me.

Sold my British Gas shares to pay for our honeymoon in 1990. Stayed in Malia Crete.
Think there was maybe 3 bars, very peaceful place then. Hired a scooter and went all over the island, love Crete. Think Malia is a different animal nowadays tho.

 

[Evo1883]

I work a 4 day week, Tuesday to Friday.. I cant tell you the difference it makes in your feeling towards work and the benefit of having the extra day off.
The need to phone in sick just isn't really there, I don't mind working an hour or so over at all and I'm positive it's a more productive way forward for more businesses

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I must say it’s hilarious seeing SNP politicians cling to the EU mast even as von der Leyen calls for banning vaccine exports to the UK. You know sometimes, even if it is just sometimes, Westminster isn’t the evil entity they claim it is.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Don;t expect him to understand, it'll be someone else's fault as always.

I do understand clearly. You are scared of going outdoors and therefore want everyone to be put in the same position as you.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I do understand clearly. You are scared of going outdoors and therefore want everyone to be put in the same position as you.

I don’t think he actually wants to be worried at all. Any more than you genuinely have no concerns about people getting ill.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The mental health line works both ways. There are people who are worried about coming out of this.
There is no solution that keeps everyone happy or safe but we can have a bit of empathy for people who are in a different boat to ourselves which is why terms like lockdown lovers isn't really helpful and bound to spark a response.

I have empathy. I have been keeping to the rules for a year.

Lockdown is doing more damage to people.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I do understand clearly. You are scared of going outdoors and therefore want everyone to be put in the same position as you.

Fuck off you total wanker

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Fuck off you total wanker

Finally, the true colours.

 

[chiefdave]

In the usual put it out there and see what the response is before actually doing anything it seems like we might actually follow the science for a change and not allow overseas holidays in the summer. Hopefully all those the rushed to book have ensured they are covered and won't lose money.

Covid: Summer holidays abroad 'unlikely', warns government adviser

There is a risk travellers could bring Covid variants back to the UK, a government adviser warns.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In the usual put it out there and see what the response is before actually doing anything it seems like we might actually follow the science for a change and not allow overseas holidays in the summer. Hopefully all those the rushed to book have ensured they are covered and won't lose money.

Covid: Summer holidays abroad 'unlikely', warns government adviser

There is a risk travellers could bring Covid variants back to the UK, a government adviser warns.

www.bbc.co.uk

Every time they have the choice between being popular or doing what is right they flap it, I won’t get my hopes up. Lifting all restrictions in mid June should be enough for everyone

 

[TomRad85]

Fuck off you total wanker

You and ESB could become the next me and David if you keep this up. Actually David and almost everyone tbh.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

You and ESB could become the next me and David if you keep this up. Actually David and almost everyone tbh.

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At least DOD has kept the c-bombing down to just every other post.

 

[Grendel]

At least DOD has kept the c-bombing down to just every other post.

The cockney geezer is probably tucking into jellied eels and mash as we speak

 

[NorthernWisdom]

You and ESB could become the next me and David if you keep this up. Actually David and almost everyone tbh.

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His behaviour on this thread is a disgrace. I can undersstand where the likes of you and Liquid_Gold are coming from, but he's descended to ridiculing experts and mocking the afflicted, before playing the victim when they respond. Imagine if I were to wade in two-footed on the mental health thread after he announced his diagnosis?

 

[TomRad85]

At least DOD has kept the c-bombing down to just every other post.

Think I've been called a weirdo, a c**t and floof now. Full house in O'Day bingo

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[TomRad85]

His behaviour on this thread is a disgrace. I can undersstand where the likes of you and Liquid_Gold are coming from, but he's descended to ridiculing experts and mocking the afflicted, before playing the victim when they respond. Imagine if I were to wade in two-footed on the mental health thread after he announced his diagnosis?

Fair

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Think I've been called a weirdo, a c**t and floof now. Full house in O'Day bingo

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Steady there Tracksuit Tom

 

[clint van damme]

If there's one thing il never do again... It's holiday in skeg Vegas...
I dont know I reckon it was the beautiful beaches, the amazing weather and the relaxed feel of majorca that did that to me 2 years ago lol
What a beautiful place

I wouldn't mind Cornwall though, never had a holiday in Cornwall

great place Evo.
Hadn't been for a fair few years myself and went to Looe last year in September and it was fantastic.
Got a place right next to the beach with a balcony over looking it, spent a lot of hours on that balcony early morning and late at night just watching the world go by, was fantastic.

 

[TomRad85]

Steady there Tracksuit Tom

Trackie bottoms are actually comfy tbf. Anyone who relaxes at home in jeans in a psychopath.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Trackie bottoms are actually comfy tbf. Anyone who relaxes at home in jeans in a psychopath.

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Chino shorts mate.

 

[Evo1883]

Trackie bottoms are actually comfy tbf. Anyone who relaxes at home in jeans in a psychopath.

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Cotton trackies

 

[TomRad85]

Chino shorts mate.

Sometimes you want the whole leg nice and snug surely

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[NorthernWisdom]

Trackie bottoms are actually comfy tbf. Anyone who relaxes at home in jeans in a psychopath.

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Got a fine collection of Asda George bottoms during lockdown!

I can muster my finest hobo look now.

 

[TomRad85]

Got a fine collection of Asda George bottoms during lockdown!

I can muster my finest hobo look now.

Out of control barnet and scruffy stubble too I hope?

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[NorthernWisdom]

Out of control barnet and scruffy stubble too I hope?

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As mentioned earlier, I managed a fine Brian Blessed style beard until last week. Now it's just a shadow of its former self.

But... grey tracksuit bottoms, grey T-Shirt, grey socks and a massive beard... it's the kind of person they try to keep out of Tesco in sink estates.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sometimes you want the whole leg nice and snug surely

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Spend all week in a suit it’s nice to get aerated

 

[Evo1883]

More knob heads marching / protesting in London today

Just stay at home

 

[clint van damme]

Trackie bottoms are actually comfy tbf. Anyone who relaxes at home in jeans in a psychopath.

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guilty, (of relaxing in jeans, not being a psychopath).

 

[Evo1883]

guilty, (of relaxing in jeans, not being a psychopath).

Well I don't know about that mate, it's the definition of one

 

[chiefdave]

More knob heads marching / protesting in London today

Just stay at home

Anti-lockdown demonstrations are under way in central London, as MPs urge the government to change the law to allow peaceful protest.

Aren't those two separate things? I'm very much in favour of the right to protest and concern about the plans to remove it but for me that's entirely different to a restriction on public gatherings during a pandemic.

 

[Evo1883]

Aren't those two separate things? I'm very much in favour of the right to protest and concern about the plans to remove it but for me that's entirely different to a restriction on public gatherings during a pandemic.

Well the difference is they are moving I suppose... The one thing that remains true is many of them are gathered together.

Im all for protests... Etc
Not the best time though eh

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Aren't those two separate things? I'm very much in favour of the right to protest and concern about the plans to remove it but for me that's entirely different to a restriction on public gatherings during a pandemic.

This type of protest, and allowing it or not, is genuinely interesting to me. I know Grendel brought it up elsewhere but... it got a bit lost...

I am generally in favour of the right to protest and, tbh, it's one of the more worrying aspects of a lockdown, if that is removed. What *does* complicate it is if it's a protest against the very thing you're trying to prevent, and if you consider that a deliberate provocation. I'm not sure I have the answer myself to that.

 

[baldy]

More knob heads marching / protesting in London today

Just stay at home

Eurgh...wimpy voice in the darkness