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Grendel

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Grendel

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It am not being funny, it's concerning to a number of people as you appear to be having a breakdown.

A link to two articles showing what i was referring to means I am having a breakdown

Cool story David
 

TomRad85

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As I have already said if you'd read the article you'd see he actually said that according to phe you would be fine to catch the tube.

Tom, it's best to read articles before you post them.
Its his job to protect Londoners, yet here he is saying its cool to crack on the tube and head off to concerts.

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skyblueinBaku

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It is a big deal. In fact it's a massive deal.

When you're the head of state during a crisis and you want people to take it seriously and you flippantly show disdain and disregard for the medical advice in front of the TV cameras you're encouraging people to also ignore it and thus endangering lives. Esp those who hang on his every word like Dom.

Plus with this handshaking thing there are two options.

1. He DID go around shaking hands with patients (some of whom may have had COVID and thus he risked passing the infection around the patients and many others in doing so) and then told people he did it on TV (which he did).

In this scenario both the action and 'boasting' are incredibly stupid and dangerous things to do.

2. 1. He DIDN'T go around shaking hands with patients but then told people he did it on TV (which he did).

In this scenario he's lied about his actions and by doing so belittled the health advise that was trying to be given out which is incredibly stupid and dangerous.

So he's either stupid and made extremely reckless comments or he's a liar and made extremely reckless comments.
HM the Queen is the head of state.
 

David O'Day

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Its his job to protect Londoners, yet here he is saying its cool to crack on the tube and head off to concerts.

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He says it is the current guidance from phe which it was when that artic,e was published back in early march.

So you haven't read the article and are not aware of the date it was published.

You're done but mate but read the links you post next time
 

TomRad85

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He says it is the current guidance from phe which it was when that artic,e was published back in early march.

So you haven't read the article and are not aware of the date it was published.

You're done but mate but read the links you post next time
Sounds like a cop out to me. I'm aware of the date, the date makes it worse not better as this was before London was infected on the level it is now.

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David O'Day

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Sounds like a cop out to me. I'm aware of the date, the date makes it worse not better as this was before London was infected on the level it is now.

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Ffs tom, he says he is relying on the latest phe advice.
 

Grendel

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That's not what he says if you read the whole quote

Get off the Bucky its 10am

David can’t you read? Is your helper typing for you?
 

David O'Day

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No no, simply saying he was following advice hasn't let Boris off on here so let's hold Sadiq to the same standard shall we?

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Boris is the prime minister who actually gets the advice and makes the decisions. Once again if you'd read the article before you posted you would have read that at that stage the mayor of london had not been invited to any of the meetings so all he could do is repeated the public pbe advice.

Read your sources mate
 

TomRad85

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Boris is the prime minister who actually gets the advice and makes the decisions. Once again if you'd read the article before you posted you would have read that at that stage the mayor of london had not been invited to any of the meetings so all he could do is repeated the public pbe advice.

Read your sources mate
I've read it. It's a good insight for those that reckon Labour would have handled it differently, here's the Labour mayor with a chance to say what he really thinks, take some positive action, telling people to carry on getting on tubes and heading to their concerts.

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shmmeee

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It’s really simple economics. Reduce your workforce, reduce productivity, reduce the economy. That’s basically it but no one wanting to be in government will ever tell you that they’re going to deliberately shrink the economy but ultimately that will be Brexits legacy. Unless of course nothing actually changes and we still have the fabled “uncontrolled mass immigration”, which will be packaged as something else and half the country again will buy it so long as someone keeps saying taking back control.

Behind all the bluster well probably get the same immigration. We have virtually full employment and business needs what it needs. They’ll just do what they always do and pick a random target like students to make themselves look good while allowing agriculture and care staff in as “special cases” making no difference to the overall number.
 

clint van damme

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I've read it. It's a good insight for those that reckon Labour would have handled it differently, here's the Labour mayor with a chance to say what he really thinks, take some positive action, telling people to carry on getting on tubes and heading to their concerts.

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you do realise the mayor of London has nothing to do with national policy?
 

David O'Day

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I've read it. It's a good insight for those that reckon Labour would have handled it differently, here's the Labour mayor with a chance to say what he really thinks, take some positive action, telling people to carry on getting on tubes and heading to their concerts.

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So basically have not read and have just realised as he had not at that stage been invited to a cobra meeting could only repeat the latest phe advise.

You also thought it was current and claimed he was saying it was still safe to catch the tube.

This is over, better luck next time
 

clint van damme

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Behind all the bluster well probably get the same immigration. We have virtually full employment and business needs what it needs. They’ll just do what they always do and pick a random target like students to make themselves look good while allowing agriculture and care staff in as “special cases” making no difference to the overall number.

It doesn't matter what you think about the NHS, immigration, crime, they've had ten years, everything is on them. Everything.
 

Ring Of Steel

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I've read it. It's a good insight for those that reckon Labour would have handled it differently, here's the Labour mayor with a chance to say what he really thinks, take some positive action, telling people to carry on getting on tubes and heading to their concerts.

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Who on here has said that Labour would have handled it differently? And what does Sadiq Khan have to do with setting Labour policy, let alone national policy?

Our handling has been shite, everyone knows it, even the medical guy started to concede that yesterday on testing, but how does that mean Labour would have done any better, who has said that they would have done better and how is Sadiq Khan relevant to our response? The whataboutery is incredible.
 

Ring Of Steel

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is he allowed to blame Boris? After all he's only succeeded him for 4 years and the Tories are still trying to blame Labour for everything after ten.

This is a great point. By Conservative standards, Sadiq Khan still has 6 more years to officially pass all accountability for all his problems to Boris Johnson.
 

David O'Day

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is he allowed to blame Boris? After all he's only succeeded him for 4 years and the Tories are still trying to blame Labour for everything after ten.
Tom doesn't care about the drivers. He just wants to abuse Sadiq Khan.

The article clearly says he is being told that ppe needs to go to nhs
 

skybluetony176

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Johnny Rotten should have ran for office.
He said it all in 1978 and it was all hushed up.


I think the full unedited version of that interview where he “outs” Jimmy Savile is on one of the remastered Sex Pistols albums. It just goes to show the length of breath of the coverup. He was pally with senior police officers, a former Tory mayor convicted of being a peado was part of his circle, two tories put him on the boards of hospitals, one being Edwina Currie, don’t recall the other, he was so entwined with the establishment it’s scary, he hid in plane sight and god knows what secrets he took to the grave with him but I dare say that there’s more than a few members of the establishment who breathed a sigh of relief when he died.
 

TomRad85

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Their advice is so once read the article.

Also you don't care about the dead drivers, you just want to abuse a asian labour mayor. Sick c**t
What's being Asian got to do with it? You really are prick of the highest order aren't you?

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clint van damme

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I think the full unedited version of that interview where he “outs” Jimmy Savile is on one of the remastered Sex Pistols albums. It just goes to show the length of breath of the coverup. He was pally with senior police officers, a former Tory mayor convicted of being a peado was part of his circle, two tories put him on the boards of hospitals, one being Edwina Currie, don’t recall the other, he was so entwined with the establishment it’s scary, he hid in plane sight and god knows what secrets he took to the grave with him but I dare say that there’s more than a few members of the establishment who breathed a sigh of relief when he died.

plenty of skeletons in Labours cupboard as well as the Lib dems. That's why the tories haven't and won't go down this route.
If they get into a game of sex offender top trumps none of them are going to come out of it very well.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Who on here has said that Labour would have handled it differently? And what does Sadiq Khan have to do with setting Labour policy, let alone national policy?

Our handling has been shite, everyone knows it, even the medical guy started to concede that yesterday on testing, but how does that mean Labour would have done any better, who has said that they would have done better and how is Sadiq Khan relevant to our response? The whataboutery is incredible.

Nobody gives a flying fuck about Labour, give it a rest now you are becoming so boring in every post point scoring
 

Ring Of Steel

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I think the full unedited version of that interview where he “outs” Jimmy Savile is on one of the remastered Sex Pistols albums. It just goes to show the length of breath of the coverup. He was pally with senior police officers, a former Tory mayor convicted of being a peado was part of his circle, two tories put him on the boards of hospitals, one being Edwina Currie, don’t recall the other, he was so entwined with the establishment it’s scary, he hid in plane sight and god knows what secrets he took to the grave with him but I dare say that there’s more than a few members of the establishment who breathed a sigh of relief when he died.

Prince Charles asked Jimmy Saville to provide marriage guidance counselling for him & Diana. He was also big friends with Mountbatten, widely reputed to have some sinister personal interests. You're right, Saville was just the one who got caught.
 

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