torchomatic
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And only at CCFC would we get fans like you cheering an out of town rugby team taking over the stadium built for the city's football club. Weird, eh?
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And only at CCFC would we get fans like you cheering an out of town rugby team taking over the stadium built for the city's football club. Weird, eh?
hopesprings
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Disagree vehemently with that ..His efforts so far since his return have been really good. Most signings have been good and if he had had a little less bad luck with injuries (I know it is part of the game) I think we would have been higher still. To use the word untenable is quite frankly OTT in the extreme. Most, I think, would take a look at the end of the season and make a lucid and well balanced judgement on what by then will have been 1 and a bit seasons with 2 transfer windows.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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As for Robins if we miss the play offs his position is untenable.[/QUOTE]
On the basis of what ? We're Coventry City ?
As for Robins if we miss the play offs his position is untenable.[/QUOTE]
On the basis of what ? We're Coventry City ?
GaryPendrysEyes
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So says Torch the 'fan' who has been a Sisu cheerleader for 5 years while they ripped the heart out of our club. Beyond weird, eh?
Grendel
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Fuck off
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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On the basis of what ? We're a big club ?
Sky Blue Harry H
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....anyway guys, back to the title thread - has the taxi arrived?
oucho
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It's not weird when you remember that the football club sacrificed and squandered its rights through its own actions - justice needed to be done.
Liquid Gold
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Nah, it's still weird.
oucho
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So it's weird that someone call tell right from wrong, sees a massive wrong happen, and then is pleased when that wrong is righted and the miscreants see their plot blow up in their faces?
Set against that, team loyalty has no importance at all. If you think SIsu didn't deserve what they got, take a read of Judge Hickinbottom's report, he was suitably scathing.......
Grendel
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Every post you make like this shows how less a fan you are. I couldn’t give a flying fuck if Higgs ACL and the council were bought to their knees if ccfc prospered
skybluetony176
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It’s beyond OTT, it’s mental. MR has to overcome a lot of things that he shouldn’t, most notably overcome the environment of failure caused by owners who don’t give a flying one, mess up everything and have seemingly gone into overdrive to reduce our income by either franchising everything out or disengaging paying customers. It’s no coincidence that MR is doing practically a weekly appeal for fans to return. We’re a walking disaster zone and if the strongest links job becomes untenable what happens to the rest of them? Do we just sack Robins and give them a free pass?
Non of that rant was aimed at you by the way.
skybluetony176
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The only people that would prosper in that scenario is SISU. What do you think is going to happen? SISU get everything and then just hand it over to the club?
Grendel
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What are the nasty wasty hedge fund going to do Tony? Dump a load of debt on the coventry community asset?
Oh hold on....
skybluetony176
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Are you going to answer the question or just talk bollocks to avoid the point? You don’t need to answer that question by the way, I already know the answer.
I’ll try again with the original question though. Just for a laugh if nothing else.
What do you think is going to happen in that scenario? SISU will get everything and just hand it over to the club?
Grendel
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No Tony I think sisu will put debt against the community asset have a ccfc (holdings) just for the purpose What’s your “thoughts” Tony?
shmmeee
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Man your spelling is fucking shocking. Proof positive that baby boomers were rewarded well beyond their abilities.
oucho
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Well that shows what's behind your attitude. You literally don't care how our club behaves provided we do well - I personally find that view abhorrent and couldn't give a fuck whether CCFC prospers provided it lives by its obligations and is a good citizen. You're implying I'm not a fan (despite hundreds of games attended) if I don't agree with your view - let's face it, you can support a football club whilst also opposing mercenary behaviour by your club's owners. I literally can't understand why you cannot see that, but you don't.
Captain Dart
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Reasonable expectation, in fact I'd go further if he does not get to at least the play off final he should go.
italiahorse
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Most of us see the benefits for the hundreds of thousands ratepayers rather than the benefits of a few thousand CCFC fans.
But we can still be part of it we just won't own it.
NorthernWisdom
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Well I'm glad this thread about Robins is boring us senseless with more of the same old same old turgid crap.
letsallsingtogether
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That is where we differ.
I love this City CCFC happen to be part of it.
You on the other hand hate it you probebly cried like a baby when we got City of Culture.
I also cried but tears of Joy.
TBF don't care about ACL but to bring the council down to benefit 3.5% of the community is just scandalous.
I want the whole City to do well we need a strong council to archive that, we also need owners that are willing to talk to the people.
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skybluetony176
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So how is the club going to benefit? You seem to be saying that they’ll load debt against the asset that the club will have to pay. Surely that contradicts your expectation that the club would have benefited from the demise of ACL at the cost of Higgs and CCC. How is that different to what wasps have done? Other than they actually coughed up the money to buy it and the debt against the asset is owed to bond holders on the open market not invisible investors through a secretive hedge fund? Would the money be invested in the team? New training ground? New academy? Or servicing the debt to SISU’s investors? You’re a clever guy apparently so educate us.
How’s it working out for Wasps by the way? Has loading debt against the asset enabled them to invest in a new training ground or has that been scrapped as they’re struggling to service the debt?
How would it be any different for us (other than most likely worse) if SISU had managed to gain control of the Ricoh? How would it have benefited us like you suggested it would? I’m all ears.
letsallsingtogether
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TBF of we had a successful football club instead of years of decline with owners who cared, maybe that wouldn't have happened.
NortonSkyBlue
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Italiahorse, I respect your point of view and I can understand that you are supportive of both parties as a matter of choice and convenience. Actually your slant on things is always relevant to me because it is "we are where we are" not where we would like to be or have a right to be like some fellow posters.
Some would say you are a collaborator, where as I see you as a realist.
It sticks in my throat when you say "we can still be part of it we just won't own it" That is the truth, the whole truth.
When I am home I drive past the Ricoh a couple of times a day and I curse the Wasps badge every time, when I enter the stadium a little part of me dies every time, my brick is in the wall, our dead are commemorated in its grounds, the furniture is Sky Blue, the statue is for our beloved manager, it is like coming home and finding your kids calling your wife's lover dad, seeing him sitting in your favorite chair, knowing his name is now on the deeds and you have to grin and bear it. It's the uncomfortable truth.
What happens when we want to erect a statue to George and John? ( should be happening IMO before it's too late)
Where is it erected? " please sir can we stick a statue up on your land?"
Yes we can still be part of it, Italiahorse, unlike others I don't blame Wasps, they rode in to town with an invitation and a welcome and have made a better job of it to date than we ever did.
But we don't have to like it and even if it is the only option at present we have to explore every alternative as we are not even a junior partner in our own ground, we are like Oliver Twist, forced to beg for scraps, like a decent pitch
I just hope we can get owners who want to find a way to either be equal partners in a ground built for us or invest in a home where we are masters.
stevefloyd
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Thank god we didn't lose last Saturday otherwise we could have been arguing on here
Grendel
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No it merely shows autocorrect on a phone doesn’t automatically correct. Oh and as a baby boomer when I wear contact lenses I can’t see what I’m typing on a phone. At least I have advanced level in English when it actually meant advanced. Also I just chuck my presentations to underlings who do the checking.
What’s it like being an underling out of interest?
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Brighton Sky Blue
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The Higgs were almost begging for us to buy out their option shortly after SISU took over, but Ranson decided it wasn't lucrative to take and ultimately we never did.
singers_pore
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The voice of reason...great post...sums up my feelings exactly.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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NorthernWisdom
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Well, ain't this lovely.
stevefloyd
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just think what it would be like if we supported different teams on here
Moff
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Torch the sort of fan who is a season ticket holder there supporting the team, unlike someone who never posts on the matches, never celebrates a win, and only tends to post negative rhetoric. Beyond weird eh?
letsallsingtogether
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Well I am quite content with my life being an underling.
I haven't had to buy a friend on my £21,000.
Funny how I still go out with the same friends I had 30 years ago what you see is what you get, at our low level.
Thing with being up your own arse is that it can get very tiring trying to keep up an act, people only make out they like you because your the boss
Suggest you go to bed you must be knackered.
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