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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #841
long way home said:
Bright is going to push the patience of the staff, very unpredictable on and off the field. Not worth it in my opinion can win you games but this doesn't sound good if he wasn't given permission.
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Yes, first game back at the Ricoh, playing against the club who got rid of him, thought he’d be up for it. Maybe not
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #842
better days said:
I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course
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Happens to the best of us, reminds me of when I played Sunday football aged 15/16. I'd just changed clubs and was due to play on the Sunday against my previous club.

My old club regularly had its games as an early afternoon kick off so for whatever reason I assumed the same here. I was wrong. Ended up arriving with about 10 minutes to go much to the delight of my old manager.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #843
Shouldn’t happen and not a good time for it to happen but let’s hope it was just a mistake re. kick-off.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #844
Clutching at straws to think it was a mistake about kick off time.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #845
shmmeee said:
It’s all risk reduction though isn’t it? Studies suggest 90ish% reduction in risk of infection.
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It was more to do with the punishment though.

What if one player gets vaxxed, another doesn't, both get Covid and miss a game but you only fine the non-vaxxed player.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #846
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It was more to do with the punishment though.

What if one player gets vaxxed, another doesn't, both get Covid and miss a game but you only fine the non-vaxxed player.
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I’d liken it to injuries again. Player takes up bare knuckle boxing and gets injured, his mate sprains his ankle getting out of bed. Surely you expect players to take basic precautions?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #847
shmmeee said:
It’s all risk reduction though isn’t it? Studies suggest 90ish% reduction in risk of infection.
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Think it’s only about 60% prevention from Delta. 90%+ protection from severe illness. Also vaccines should reduce transmission by around 50% so protecting others as well. Surely all that is enough for anyone !

Doubt any fines etc will be enforceable unless new contracts have been tailored for Covid. It’s just a case of educating and encouraging....which could be tricky if certain players can’t even get the kick off time right
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #848
Nick said:
Clutching at straws to think it was a mistake about kick off time.
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Well he turned up all be it too late might be a cock up or genuine reason we might not find out.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #849
CCFCSteve said:
Think it’s only about 60% prevention from Delta. 90%+ protection from severe illness. Also vaccines should reduce transmission by around 50% so protecting others as well. Surely all that is enough for anyone !

Doubt any fines etc will be enforceable unless new contracts have been tailored for Covid. It’s just a case of educating and encouraging....which could be tricky if certain players can’t even get the kick off time right
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Oh I’m certain they can’t. This is just my personal hobby horse about footballer contracts being ridiculously weighted towards the footballer.

For example I think we should’ve been able to cancel Kastaneers contract for gross misconduct.
 
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Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #850
better days said:
I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course
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At this rate the details will be us cancelling his contract, didnt even make it to the first home game he was meant to play in! (Hope it's not the case though as I like him)
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #851
djr8369 said:
I don’t but the fact you think individualism is tied to morality is interesting. Rands ideas really took hold.
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It's always the ones screaming obscenities towards others that cower behind taking the supposed moral stand. It's the same with masks. Do as I say otherwise you are a lower human. In reality, it is nothing to do with right or wrong really. As we've seen, the vaccine has been touted as a good thing because it stops you passing it on to an extent, now we've found a situation where it isn't anything to do with that, and we've got people like you saying that players should be strung up if they don't take it.

It shows an ulterior motive and to me, it goes hand in hand with those that will probably wear a mask for the rest of their lives and enjoy telling others off for not doing as they want, to make themselves feel better. Insecurities covered by arrogance and good old virtue signalling. For the last time, if you want to give punishments to people for not having a vaccine, you aren't a good person.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #852
slowpoke said:
Well he turned up all be it too late might be a cock up or genuine reason we might not find out.
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The 40 odd other players involved in the game from both sides knew the kick off time
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #853
shmmeee said:
I’d liken it to injuries again. Player takes up bare knuckle boxing and gets injured, his mate sprains his ankle getting out of bed. Surely you expect players to take basic precautions?
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Of course they should. The guy should have got out of bed more carefully.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #854
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's always the ones screaming obscenities towards others that cower behind taking the supposed moral stand. It's the same with masks. Do as I say otherwise you are a lower human. In reality, it is nothing to do with right or wrong really. As we've seen, the vaccine has been touted as a good thing because it stops you passing it on to an extent, now we've found a situation where it isn't anything to do with that, and we've got people like you saying that players should be strung up if they don't take it.

It shows an ulterior motive and to me, it goes hand in hand with those that will probably wear a mask for the rest of their lives and enjoy telling others off for not doing as they want to make themselves feel better. Insecurities covered by arrogance and good old virtue signalling. For the last time, if you want to give punishments to people for not having a vaccine, you aren't a good person.
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You’re confusing punishments with people not wanting disease spreaders around.

Take COVID out of it. Before this we had measles reappearing in the states and school districts refusing to accept unvaccinated kids because of the dangers of it taking hold again and the danger to those who can’t be vaccinated.

Here we’ve got a situation where you could make yourself and your roommate unavailable for selection for several games. The club is well within its right to say that’s not on IMO.

It’s like not washing. I can’t make you take a shower, but I can say I don’t want your stinky ass in my house.
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #855
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The 40 odd other players involved in the game from both sides knew the kick off time
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He possibly missed that bit when he was rushing through the door after training on Friday
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #856
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Of course they should. The guy should have got out of bed more carefully.
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I guess it all comes down to your definition of reasonable precautions. I don’t see the fuss about getting a vaccine shot, it’s more getting out of bed than it is bare knuckle boxing.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #857
And anyway, the players usually report for a game about 2 hours before kick off. 11am yesterday
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #858
Did no one have his mobile number?
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #859
Nick said:
Clutching at straws to think it was a mistake about kick off time.
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Completely get what you’re saying. But then why would he turn up at all if it wasn’t a mistake. All sounds a bit strange. Suppose we’ll find out sooner or later.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #860
How long until the “CLUB STATEMENT: Coventry City have terminated the contract of Bright Enobakhare by mutual consent” tweet then?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #861
shmmeee said:
You’re confusing punishments with people not wanting disease spreaders around.

Take COVID out of it. Before this we had measles reappearing in the states and school districts refusing to accept unvaccinated kids because of the dangers of it taking hold again and the danger to those who can’t be vaccinated.

Here we’ve got a situation where you could make yourself and your roommate unavailable for selection for several games. The club is well within its right to say that’s not on IMO.

It’s like not washing. I can’t make you take a shower, but I can say I don’t want your stinky ass in my house.
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I was considering bringing up things like measles but don't those vaccinated against that have no chance of getting it? Of course if vaccine take-up is low the disease will spread more widely and thus have greater chance to mutate and make the vaccine ineffective

But the idea of, say, your kids going to school and there's an outbreak of a disease because a lot of the parents haven't had their kids vaccinated against it. Your kids have but get sick. As a parent you've done what you can but your kids have got ill because of the actions of others. I'm sure you'd want those other parents punished in some way. Them saying 'it's my choice to make' isn't going to cut it if you're seeing your kid in hospital.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #862
kg82 said:
Completely get what you’re saying. But then why would he turn up at all if it wasn’t a mistake. All sounds a bit strange. Suppose we’ll find out sooner or later.
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It’s usually be at the ground 2 hours before kick off, so depending on when he turned up he was 2-4 hours late!
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #863
better days said:
I believe he showed up some time after kick off
Guess the club will give details of the background in due course
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Sorry but if he failed to show up I’d tear the contract up and use the funds elsewhere.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #864
SeaSeeEffCee said:
How long until the “CLUB STATEMENT: Coventry City have terminated the contract of Bright Enobakhare by mutual consent” tweet then?
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That won’t happen the fact he turned up tells me there’s reasons Robins will deal with it, be interesting to see if he is in Sunday’s match day squad.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #865
Torquay Sky Blue said:
You know what . Thats probably the truth
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I also thought it was 3pm until I saw the match thread go haywire on here

But I wasn’t supposed to be playing
 
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better days

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #866
shmmeee said:
Did no one have his mobile number?
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Of course
 

BigadamL

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #867
Where has anyone heard this he failed to turn up rubbish?
Bit of a piss take that people are looking for any reason to dislike the bloke or make out he is a bad influence around the club.
I’m not a massive fan of having him back but it is what it is and I’m sure he will be fine without fans trying to wind other fans up about him
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #868
BigadamL said:
Where has anyone heard this he failed to turn up rubbish?
Bit of a piss take that people are looking for any reason to dislike the bloke or make out he is a bad influence around the club.
I’m not a massive fan of having him back but it is what it is and I’m sure he will be fine without fans trying to wind other fans up about him
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Better days who is usually well informed said he turned up some time after kick off
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #869
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's always the ones screaming obscenities towards others that cower behind taking the supposed moral stand. It's the same with masks. Do as I say otherwise you are a lower human. In reality, it is nothing to do with right or wrong really. As we've seen, the vaccine has been touted as a good thing because it stops you passing it on to an extent, now we've found a situation where it isn't anything to do with that, and we've got people like you saying that players should be strung up if they don't take it.

It shows an ulterior motive and to me, it goes hand in hand with those that will probably wear a mask for the rest of their lives and enjoy telling others off for not doing as they want, to make themselves feel better. Insecurities covered by arrogance and good old virtue signalling. For the last time, if you want to give punishments to people for not having a vaccine, you aren't a good person.
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Christ here we go again- ulterior motives, secret agendas, virtue signalling

Nobody wants to punish “people”, this is about football players, and if your career is tied to physical health it’s very different. It’s never going to be enforceable unless the EFL does the same as the premier league, but this debate is about whether football players should have the vaccine to avoid risking taking out a big chunk of the team before a game- it’s nothing to do with mass conspiracies and control.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #870
BigadamL said:
Where has anyone heard this he failed to turn up rubbish?
Bit of a piss take that people are looking for any reason to dislike the bloke or make out he is a bad influence around the club.
I’m not a massive fan of having him back but it is what it is and I’m sure he will be fine without fans trying to wind other fans up about him
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I want the lad to do well and not waste his talent
Let's see what the club says in due course
in the meantime it's all just speculation
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #871
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's always the ones screaming obscenities towards others that cower behind taking the supposed moral stand. It's the same with masks. Do as I say otherwise you are a lower human. In reality, it is nothing to do with right or wrong really. As we've seen, the vaccine has been touted as a good thing because it stops you passing it on to an extent, now we've found a situation where it isn't anything to do with that, and we've got people like you saying that players should be strung up if they don't take it.

It shows an ulterior motive and to me, it goes hand in hand with those that will probably wear a mask for the rest of their lives and enjoy telling others off for not doing as they want, to make themselves feel better. Insecurities covered by arrogance and good old virtue signalling. For the last time, if you want to give punishments to people for not having a vaccine, you aren't a good person.
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Literally none of this is true.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #872
kg82 said:
Completely get what you’re saying. But then why would he turn up at all if it wasn’t a mistake. All sounds a bit strange. Suppose we’ll find out sooner or later.
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Could have woken up hungover and thought turning up late and feigning ignorance would allow him to get away with it. Of course we’re all just speculating.
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #873
Let's hope that there is a legitimate reason, however it's a coincidence considering his track record.
 

BigadamL

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #874
better days said:
I want the lad to do well and not waste his talent
Let's see what the club says in due course
in the meantime it's all just speculation
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Where did you get that he turned up late from? Have you just put two and two together and got 5
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2021
  • #875
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I was considering bringing up things like measles but don't those vaccinated against that have no chance of getting it? Of course if vaccine take-up is low the disease will spread more widely and thus have greater chance to mutate and make the vaccine ineffective

But the idea of, say, your kids going to school and there's an outbreak of a disease because a lot of the parents haven't had their kids vaccinated against it. Your kids have but get sick. As a parent you've done what you can but your kids have got ill because of the actions of others. I'm sure you'd want those other parents punished in some way. Them saying 'it's my choice to make' isn't going to cut it if you're seeing your kid in hospital.
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About 97% efficacy the measles jab I believe. Very few medicines are 100% effective, if any.
 
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