Winning Championship without parachute payments (19 Viewers)

When was the last time this happened? Ipswich were second a couple of years back and there been a few through playoffs obviously… but who was the last team to win championship without any parachute money?
 

Bugsy

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When was the last time this happened? Ipswich were second a couple of years back and there been a few through playoffs obviously… but who was the last team to win championship without any parachute money?

Think it was Leeds United's in 2019–20
Their title win came 16 years after their relegation from the Premier League, meaning they were no longer eligible for any parachute funding
 

alexccfc99

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Leeds 19/20 and then Wolves in 17/18 - albeit Leeds were under Bielsa who was ridiculously good at this level and Wolves had just been taken over and threw stupid amounts of money at it anyway
 

shmmeee

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shmmeee

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Ive asked ai and they dont think its happened before.

Closest was 2016-17.

When 2 of 3 were non parachute and huddesfield through play offs.
Newcastke being onky team with parachutes finishing 2nd.

Oh haha my answer is also from AI
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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Parachute payments weren’t as big of a deal pre-2015 or 2016 (whenever that massive Prem TV deal came into effect) but they have been hugely impactful since Covid with Ipswich being the only team not in receipt of parachute payments to be promoted automatically.
 

shmmeee

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Parachute system has also changed a lot. IIRC post 2015/16 it was front loaded more
 

shmmeee

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2014:15? Bournemouth and Watford

This is correct BTW I’ve confirmed on Wikipedia. For questions like this don’t use a small model like the free ChatGPT or Googles search AI, use a proper pro model with deep research capability.
 

Lamps

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They don't need 40 points lol, 30 maybe

Suspect they'd win the playoffs in any case tbh
We just don't know what anyone will need. Ipswich have a very difficult game next away to Watford.

But if they manage to get 2 PPG for the rest of the season that's 30 points, and they would end up on 84 points. If we manage 2 PPG we would end up on 91 points.

For a bit of perspective if Ipswich get 2 points a game and we only get 1.5 points a game we would beat them by half a point. So anything better than 1.5 points a game will put us in a very good position.
 

Balli001

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We just don't know what anyone will need. Ipswich have a very difficult game next away to Watford.

But if they manage to get 2 PPG for the rest of the season that's 30 points, and they would end up on 84 points. If we manage 2 PPG we would end up on 91 points.

For a bit of perspective if Ipswich get 2 points a game and we only get 1.5 points a game we would beat them by half a point. So anything better than 1.5 points a game will put us in a very good position.
Exactly. Take Boro, they still have to go to Ipswich Birmingham and Wrexham
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Exactly. Take Boro, they still have to go to Ipswich Birmingham and Wrexham
Our own home games are a mix of very tricky ones and ones you’d expect us to win. Away again there’s a mix of winnable and pretty daunting.

Boro have some tough away games to come, but I can’t see them dropping many at home. Ipswich that fixture pile up is tough going, no matter how stacked their squad is.
 
The last couple of games have calmed my fluttering heart... this'll be done just after easter and we can enjoy April immensely with a victory lap around the provinces
 

alexccfc99

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2014:15? Bournemouth and Watford
Bournemouth were being bankrolled by a Russian millionaire who only brought the club by virtue of him owning a house in Sandbanks - Does annoy me when their rise to the Premier League gets labelled as some sort of fairytale when they spent millions to get there and broke FFP rules on the way there, in the season you mentioned
 

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