SafeAsMilk
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When was the last time this happened? Ipswich were second a couple of years back and there been a few through playoffs obviously… but who was the last team to win championship without any parachute money?
Winning Championship without parachute payments (26 Viewers)
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Bugsy
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Think it was Leeds United's in 2019–20
Their title win came 16 years after their relegation from the Premier League, meaning they were no longer eligible for any parachute funding
alexccfc99
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Leeds 19/20 and then Wolves in 17/18 - albeit Leeds were under Bielsa who was ridiculously good at this level and Wolves had just been taken over and threw stupid amounts of money at it anyway
SleepyGinger
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If we do it our story is as good as any.
Covkid1968#
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The 10 year journey from near oblivion is a story worth telling.
Londonccfcfan
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When last time the top 2 were non paruchute clubs?
shmmeee
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2014:15? Bournemouth and Watford
Londonccfcfan
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Ive asked ai and they dont think its happened before.
Closest was 2016-17.
When 2 of 3 were non parachute and huddesfield through play offs.
Newcastke being onky team with parachutes finishing 2nd.
SleepyGinger
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Good chance of 3 non parachute teams this season
skybluecam
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That means it almost certainly has happened
shmmeee
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Oh haha my answer is also from AI
Londonccfcfan
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Yes it definately has.
As there was a time when parachute payments were not a thing.
SeaSeeEffCee
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Parachute payments weren’t as big of a deal pre-2015 or 2016 (whenever that massive Prem TV deal came into effect) but they have been hugely impactful since Covid with Ipswich being the only team not in receipt of parachute payments to be promoted automatically.
Londonccfcfan
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Very good chance if Ipswich dont get another 40 points minimum from what 15 games. Thats some going.
skybluecam
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They don't need 40 points lol, 30 maybe
Suspect they'd win the playoffs in any case tbh
shmmeee
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This is correct BTW I’ve confirmed on Wikipedia. For questions like this don’t use a small model like the free ChatGPT or Googles search AI, use a proper pro model with deep research capability.
TomRad85
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Not sure they'll be in a rush to play Wrexham again.
Londonccfcfan
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Wtf my maths. Your right. Buzzbuster
Lamps
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We just don't know what anyone will need. Ipswich have a very difficult game next away to Watford.
But if they manage to get 2 PPG for the rest of the season that's 30 points, and they would end up on 84 points. If we manage 2 PPG we would end up on 91 points.
For a bit of perspective if Ipswich get 2 points a game and we only get 1.5 points a game we would beat them by half a point. So anything better than 1.5 points a game will put us in a very good position.
Balli001
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Exactly. Take Boro, they still have to go to Ipswich Birmingham and Wrexham
Brighton Sky Blue
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Our own home games are a mix of very tricky ones and ones you’d expect us to win. Away again there’s a mix of winnable and pretty daunting.
Boro have some tough away games to come, but I can’t see them dropping many at home. Ipswich that fixture pile up is tough going, no matter how stacked their squad is.
SafeAsMilk
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The last couple of games have calmed my fluttering heart... this'll be done just after easter and we can enjoy April immensely with a victory lap around the provinces
alexccfc99
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Bournemouth were being bankrolled by a Russian millionaire who only brought the club by virtue of him owning a house in Sandbanks - Does annoy me when their rise to the Premier League gets labelled as some sort of fairytale when they spent millions to get there and broke FFP rules on the way there, in the season you mentioned
shmmeee
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Yeah but not parachute payments. I’m not claiming they were skint.
bigfatronssba
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25 year really.
We would be the first club to go from the Premier League, all the way to the bottom, to then get all the way back up.
alexccfc99
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Oh I know you wasn't I was just ranting
shmmeee
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Luton missed by a year but also went down further.
Ipad Boro
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As well as Bielsa, Leeds had acquired minted owners for this level, their recruitment for that season meant it was clear they were going for it. Chucking 10M at us for Bamford the season before being an indicator of where they were going. He was a snip at that price too at the time considering he spearheaded their promotion bid, scored goals for fun in the PL the season they went up and got called up by England.
Still can't believe the dinosaur Pulis decided Paddy B was surplus to requirements for us, yet complete carthorse Gestede wasn't on account of him being a big lump so good at aiming a throw in at his head in the box apparently...
Ipad Boro
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I'm hoping Ipswich get a rearranged fixture dumped in their lap for April 15th. I can dream...
Brighton Sky Blue
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Make sure Hellberg knows how to do a rain dance if it gets iffy at Portman Road.
Ipad Boro
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Ipswich could feasibly get 30 points and still miss out.
I agree that I don't think they'd need 40 though.
How many do we think?