Winning Championship without parachute payments (8 Viewers)

SafeAsMilk · 2026-02-23T09:50:17+0000

When was the last time this happened? Ipswich were second a couple of years back and there been a few through playoffs obviously… but who was the last team to win championship without any parachute money?

Bugsy · 2026-02-23T09:53:28+0000

SafeAsMilk said:
When was the last time this happened? Ipswich were second a couple of years back and there been a few through playoffs obviously… but who was the last team to win championship without any parachute money?

Think it was Leeds United's in 2019–20
Their title win came 16 years after their relegation from the Premier League, meaning they were no longer eligible for any parachute funding

alexccfc99 · 2026-02-23T09:56:52+0000

Leeds 19/20 and then Wolves in 17/18 - albeit Leeds were under Bielsa who was ridiculously good at this level and Wolves had just been taken over and threw stupid amounts of money at it anyway

SleepyGinger · 2026-02-23T12:55:57+0000

If we do it our story is as good as any.

Covkid1968# · 2026-02-23T12:58:45+0000

SleepyGinger said:
If we do it our story is as good as any.

The 10 year journey from near oblivion is a story worth telling.

Londonccfcfan · 2026-02-23T12:59:56+0000

When last time the top 2 were non paruchute clubs?

shmmeee · 2026-02-23T13:01:49+0000

Londonccfcfan said:
When last time the top 2 were non paruchute clubs?

2014:15? Bournemouth and Watford

Londonccfcfan · 2026-02-23T13:03:21+0000

shmmeee said:
2014:15? Bournemouth and Watford

Ive asked ai and they dont think its happened before.

Closest was 2016-17.

When 2 of 3 were non parachute and huddesfield through play offs.
Newcastke being onky team with parachutes finishing 2nd.

SleepyGinger · 2026-02-23T13:04:31+0000

Good chance of 3 non parachute teams this season

skybluecam · 2026-02-23T13:05:24+0000

Londonccfcfan said:
Ive asked ai and they dont think its happened before.

That means it almost certainly has happened

shmmeee · 2026-02-23T13:05:39+0000

Londonccfcfan said:
Ive asked ai and they dont think its happened before.

Closest was 2016-17.

When 2 of 3 were non parachute and huddesfield through play offs.
Newcastke being onky team with parachutes finishing 2nd.

Oh haha my answer is also from AI

Londonccfcfan · 2026-02-23T13:09:01+0000

skybluecam said:
That means it almost certainly has happened

Yes it definately has.

As there was a time when parachute payments were not a thing.

SeaSeeEffCee · 2026-02-23T13:09:24+0000

Parachute payments weren’t as big of a deal pre-2015 or 2016 (whenever that massive Prem TV deal came into effect) but they have been hugely impactful since Covid with Ipswich being the only team not in receipt of parachute payments to be promoted automatically.

shmmeee · 2026-02-23T13:10:01+0000

Parachute system has also changed a lot. IIRC post 2015/16 it was front loaded more

Londonccfcfan · 2026-02-23T13:10:13+0000

SleepyGinger said:
Good chance of 3 non parachute teams this season

Very good chance if Ipswich dont get another 40 points minimum from what 15 games. Thats some going.

skybluecam · 2026-02-23T13:14:01+0000

Londonccfcfan said:
Very good chance if Ipswich dont get another 40 points minimum from what 15 games. Thats some going.

They don't need 40 points lol, 30 maybe

Suspect they'd win the playoffs in any case tbh

shmmeee · 2026-02-23T13:15:04+0000

shmmeee said:
2014:15? Bournemouth and Watford

This is correct BTW I’ve confirmed on Wikipedia. For questions like this don’t use a small model like the free ChatGPT or Googles search AI, use a proper pro model with deep research capability.

TomRad85 · 2026-02-23T13:15:34+0000

skybluecam said:
They don't need 40 points lol, 30 maybe

Suspect they'd win the playoffs in any case tbh

Not sure they'll be in a rush to play Wrexham again.

Londonccfcfan · 2026-02-23T13:16:16+0000

skybluecam said:
They don't need 40 points lol, 30 maybe

Suspect they'd win the playoffs in any case tbh

Wtf my maths. Your right. Buzzbuster

Lamps · 2026-02-23T13:38:19+0000

skybluecam said:
They don't need 40 points lol, 30 maybe

Suspect they'd win the playoffs in any case tbh

We just don't know what anyone will need. Ipswich have a very difficult game next away to Watford.

But if they manage to get 2 PPG for the rest of the season that's 30 points, and they would end up on 84 points. If we manage 2 PPG we would end up on 91 points.

For a bit of perspective if Ipswich get 2 points a game and we only get 1.5 points a game we would beat them by half a point. So anything better than 1.5 points a game will put us in a very good position.

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