Garlick said last night almost word for word what Fisher has said "a company in the Sisu group".
I think Fisher said it was too early to talk about rent etc. Which worries me a bit. Surely the club should know the cost/benefit before embarking on a project of this size?
How many other clubs have their ground owned by other limited companies within the group? Would be interesting to see if it was standard practise.
@ pb2875....CCFC will never own the Ricoh/New Stadium while SISU are in charge. We all know that not only "Management fees" but "Ground rental charges" will hit the Football Club like a "Ton of bricks" if the owners get their way.
We didn't own it before? People want us to go back and rent it from the council and that is ok but to rent it from anywhere else?
I don't understand
Simple answer is, a football club should own it's own stadium.
We didn't own it before? People want us to go back and rent it from the council and that is ok but to rent it from anywhere else?
I don't understand
We will always rent. Only a few people argue the rent thing. It's wrong to generalise just for a few.
The majority of people have no problem renting off the council and perhaps also are just a bit unsure about renting off Sisu for obvious reasons.
The figures show that owning a 12-20,000 stadium will cost more in interest rates than renting the Ricoh.
@ torchomatic........Have CCFC ever owned their ground?
@ hill83....Keep up thick lad, the point is I don't ever recollect any other owners charging extortionate "Management fees" and having all debts "Dumped into the Football Club" do you?
Most businesses who are part of a group have management fees and there are some very well known clubs who have had debt piled onto them.
@ hill83....Keep up thick lad, the point is I don't ever recollect any other owners charging extortionate "Management fees" and having all debts "Dumped into the Football Club" do you?
We didn't own it before? People want us to go back and rent it from the council and that is ok but to rent it from anywhere else?
I don't understand
@ hill83........It's something both you and Torchy can't help using..."SARCASM" It was a statement, stating the obvious.
I'll clarify the position.
Ccfc rented a ground in Coventry, during which time we saw average crowds of between 11k - 21k.
The future is ccfc renting a ground outside of Coventry where attendences at maximum will be 11k (once accounting for segregation).
Now many of us dont consider the future position to be worth 5 years in Northampton and the destruction of future fanbase.
Can you give me a reason to see the future differently?
hill83......It is a ridiculous amount on management fees, and It's annoying that it isn't disclosed exactly what they are for................................................................................................Well! poke me in the eye with a f**king blunt stick!!!...You actually see the light then do you?
Yes, renting both so the issue isn't who owns the stadium it is the location and the capacity. Not who owns it surely?
Yes I agree, it doesn't matter who owns the ground so long as the club can benefit from it.
However that flies in the face of the sisu stance of needing to own it.
Also from the clubs point of view, 5 years of hell pass by to end up in the same situation we started in.
Surely the issue is, SISU say the football club should own the ground, and renting is not in the club's best interests.
But that's exactly what SISU will do if they buy the Ricoh ie rent it to the football club.
How can it be bad for the club when ACL are the leaseholders, but ok when (if) SISU own the Ricoh ?
Surely the issue is, SISU say the football club should own the ground, and renting is not in the club's best interests.
But that's exactly what SISU will do if they buy the Ricoh ie rent it to the football club.
How can it be bad for the club when ACL are the leaseholders, but ok when (if) SISU own the Ricoh ?
No - the point is it shouldn't matter to the fans who owns the ground.
But it does matter to the owners of the club (whoever that is) - it makes a huge difference in their ability to raise funds, be in control of income streams and gives freedom to add flexible terms between club and stadium.
@ Nick...If your inference is my posts are boring, I would suggest you take a look at your own mate...A huge percentage of your posts/reply to posts, are apologist on behalf of SISU....For balance of course. Which in itself is boring to the extreme.
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