Hobo
Well-Known Member
Labovitch said in his interview on CWR last night, "the problem with Bing they never revealed who their investors are." A strange accusation because SISU haven't either. SISU and Arvo Master fund are hedge funds for anonymous investors. The later based in the Caymen Islands so no accounts business profile available in the UK.
Technically Otium own us run by Fisher and Labovitch. Yet both default to our owners and it seems clear Joy calls the shots. I am not sure that fits FL rules, technically Joy doesn't have to be fit and proper.
For example if Otium had failed to post accounts, Fisher and Labovitch would have been accountable, not Joy. Joy technically isn't responsible for anything that happens. How nice to be an owner without responsibility, it's not even her money.
Also funding seems to have moved away from SISU to Arvo Master Fund who now seem to hold the biggest stake. Most people think Joy is connected to them, but there is no documented proof I have seen.
So who is Arvo, is Joy a shepherd, a puppet or an owner?
Where does their money or investments come from. There is no evidence whether it is from hard earned enterprise, crime, drugs or terrorism? We know there is an incentive around tax incentive, some would view it as tax evasion. There are also genuine world wide concerns around hedge funds being used to launder money.
So the source of our funds gives me great concerns, it always has done to a degree. But with the bizarre business model these 'financial experts' run and lack of transparency with their accounting systems I.e our debt varies widely depending on who and which day you speak to them. Also with Otium officially taking over and certain accounts not now being required to be published due to liquidation, we seem to have conveniently lost some continuity around the acquired debt?
To me we seem to be funded (owned) by Arvo and there is no transparency to who they are.
Technically Otium own us run by Fisher and Labovitch. Yet both default to our owners and it seems clear Joy calls the shots. I am not sure that fits FL rules, technically Joy doesn't have to be fit and proper.
For example if Otium had failed to post accounts, Fisher and Labovitch would have been accountable, not Joy. Joy technically isn't responsible for anything that happens. How nice to be an owner without responsibility, it's not even her money.
Also funding seems to have moved away from SISU to Arvo Master Fund who now seem to hold the biggest stake. Most people think Joy is connected to them, but there is no documented proof I have seen.
So who is Arvo, is Joy a shepherd, a puppet or an owner?
Where does their money or investments come from. There is no evidence whether it is from hard earned enterprise, crime, drugs or terrorism? We know there is an incentive around tax incentive, some would view it as tax evasion. There are also genuine world wide concerns around hedge funds being used to launder money.
So the source of our funds gives me great concerns, it always has done to a degree. But with the bizarre business model these 'financial experts' run and lack of transparency with their accounting systems I.e our debt varies widely depending on who and which day you speak to them. Also with Otium officially taking over and certain accounts not now being required to be published due to liquidation, we seem to have conveniently lost some continuity around the acquired debt?
To me we seem to be funded (owned) by Arvo and there is no transparency to who they are.
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