sky_blue_up_north
Well-Known Member
12th to 14th, but we'll win the JPT
Where will we finish??? (7 Viewers)
- Thread starter Bennets Afro
- Start date
ThisManHere
New Member
17th......
Skybluebrummie
Member
6th....winning breeds confidence , which i think is a majority of our players problem.....Not particularly worried about any other teams in this division.
We have the players to do it and even when we lose DMC i think the manager has a plan.......why the hell not :claping hands:
We have the players to do it and even when we lose DMC i think the manager has a plan.......why the hell not :claping hands:
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
How can you be happy with 12th ?
With our team playing as it can, keeping McG and a couple of January adjustments the playoffs are achievable as a minimum.
Its not going to be easy but it is wrong to settle for 12th. As I've said before, if people are happy then the team will not have the incentive to make the extra effort.
We need to all make the effort, expect and get more, but be unhappy if we under achieve and tell the players so.
I predict however that if we don't get promoted this season that we will be in Div 1 for a long time.
A lot of people will not attend next season in Division 1 after finishing 12th and the resultant drop in income will have a long term effect.
These people may be swayed if there is a valiant effort for the playoffs.
Jackoskyblue
Well-Known Member
I understand people dropping their expectations after years of false hope and disappointment but were 16th now so surely we can finish higher than 14th. I can see us keeping up good form for the rest of the season but I do think play offs may be a push not impossible. Worked out if we pick up 7 points every 4 games from now (2 wins draw and a loss) that will only give us 69 points not enough for play offs.
My prediction : 9th
My prediction : 9th
stupot07
Well-Known Member
Play offs minimum......are you expecting automatic promotion then?
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Not what I said !!
Obviously, (but unlikely), if we win every game that would be a maximum and promotion.
Black6Osprey
New Member
We have got a very difficult December with Stevenage, Doncaster and MK Dons all away and any home game appears to be difficult at the moment. I think after we get through this period we will all know whether we are going to make a dramatic challenge or end up mid table as I suspect. It's very easy to say as we are 16th now we should end up much higher but we are having what I would describe as an easy run of games at present. Lets just see how things pan out on the run up to the New Year and then we can start editing our told you so posts.
Last edited:
SkyblueBazza
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by covcity4life:
Been ridiculed as of late but instill maintain we can reach playoffs
Don't forget me!
All these negative heads are just trying to make sure they can either say "told you" if we remain in L1 (or get relegated) to make themselves feel better...or celebrate if we get promotion (safe in the knowledge there will be little or no comeback because us positive heads look forward & hence won't care what they have said at this stage of the season)
This way they feel they are in a "no lose" situation with their personal credibilty.
Been ridiculed as of late but instill maintain we can reach playoffs
Don't forget me!
All these negative heads are just trying to make sure they can either say "told you" if we remain in L1 (or get relegated) to make themselves feel better...or celebrate if we get promotion (safe in the knowledge there will be little or no comeback because us positive heads look forward & hence won't care what they have said at this stage of the season)
This way they feel they are in a "no lose" situation with their personal credibilty.
Otis
Well-Known Member
1. Because we haven't put one full decent performance in yet.
2. Because we have lost 19 points from winning positions.
3. Because it's odds on we'll lose our top scorer come Jan.
4. Because MR said it's going to take time to get things right.
5. Because MR has said there's still loads wrong at the club.
6. Because in 9 home games so far we have been beaten 4 times.
7. Because we've had nothing but abject failure for over a decade and we need to stabilise and stop the terminal decline and those things just don't happen at the drop of a hat.
8. Because in the history of this league no team has ever gone from bottom 4 after 15 games to the top 6 come the end of the season.
9. Because we are just 3 points off the relegation places.
That is why I said I will be happy.
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
yup
if we get promoted you can bet their first posts will be "we were very lucky, next year we will be found out"
etc
the thing that annoys me is that i get called an optimist whilst they refer to themselves as realists
i have never been optimist as far as cov go,i just feel this year a playoff push is realistic, lets see how it pans out.
J
Jack Griffin
Guest
OK, I put this here to demonstrate the change in fortunes Mark Robins appointment has brought.
The form follows a V shaped graph (or maybe a badly drawn lopsided W, LOL), the bottom of the V is where Robins was brought in.
The form follows a V shaped graph (or maybe a badly drawn lopsided W, LOL), the bottom of the V is where Robins was brought in.
Last edited by a moderator:
Voice_of_Reason
Well-Known Member
OK, I put this here to demonstrate the change in fortunes Mark Robins appointment has brought.
The form follows a V shaped graph (or maybe a badly drawn lopsided W, LOL), the bottom of the V is where Robins was brought in.
Thanks for doing this -- it's 3 steps forward, 2 steps back -- but is steady progress. I think we could make the play-offs if this trend continues. MR is doing a fine job/
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
OK, I put this here to demonstrate the change in fortunes Mark Robins appointment has brought.
The form follows a V shaped graph (or maybe a badly drawn lopsided W, LOL), the bottom of the V is where Robins was brought in.
brilliant post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
clearly shows IF the trend continues we will be in the top half and in with a chance of the playoffs
id be more inclined to think we will win more than we lose under robins in this league
stupot07
Well-Known Member
No it doesn't.
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
There isn't any sort of sustained upward trend. The trend is to move up a place or two and move down again.
The only way we'll make the play-offs or better this season now, is if we get an undefeated streak going. We'll probably need 70+ points as previous years have suggested. I calculate with MR we're getting 1.54 points a game, we need to get at least two points per game to get close to 70 points.
My prediction would be 10th
My prediction would be 10th
Last edited:
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
If you show the mean average it leaves us on 90 points.
When do the season tickets for next year go on sale?
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
are you stupid? shall we call you stupidpot?
look at it since robin joined...gradually moving upwards.
hill83
Well-Known Member
Quick maths going by the form since Robins took over puts us on around 68 points if it continues at the same rate.
That's around 17 points every 10 games.
The start to the season will prove to be too much to make up i think.
If our home form can improve, whilst keeping the away form up then you never know.
That's around 17 points every 10 games.
The start to the season will prove to be too much to make up i think.
If our home form can improve, whilst keeping the away form up then you never know.
Last edited:
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
i would hope that this period has had robins getting to know the squad and sort out biggling issues
hopefully soon we will see a phase where everyone at the club is in the groove and we can up that 17pts per 10 games to 20 plus
not saying it will happen, but that it could.
hill83
Well-Known Member
My main worry is losing McGoldrick. But you are right, he has done well in the early stages, with a new team, and you'd like to think things will improve as everyone becomes more comfotable with eachother, and what he wants them to do.
I'm very very cautiously optimistic. But don't tell anyone.
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
still think mcg could stay
his kids are settled at school,he wants to stay in midlands,doesnt neccesarily wanna join a lower championship team because he thinks cov could get promoted this year
if we can get to 12th by jan 1st i think he may help push through a deal for us.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
We all know you can make figures say anything you want them to if you choose the right ones and dont look behind them. so here are few more numbers played with 
there is a slow steady trend upward but it is hard to call it significant at the moment ...... MR started at 23rd and the trend would indicate a current average at 20th but we are actually 16th. I think we should take from it that we have a start of a fragile revival, certainly 3 wins out of 4 isnt anything like relegation form, but we all know how inconsistent we are.
I think in all these playoff predictions we tend to ignore the teams already ahead of us and assume we will catch them......... all of the top 6 or 7 could maintain and match their form to ours, not to mention teams like Doncaster, Preston and Bournemouth getting themselves in the mix. We are 11 points behind playoffs ........... that means that the teams there at the moment can afford 3 slip ups and still be ahead of us and we have already played them all once taking 6 out of a possible 21 points from the top 7 teams.
You would have to assume that the top 8 or 9 teams could match our results against the lower teams (excluding us) that makes beating the current top teams crucial in terms of making play offs. Puts the pressure currently on us to achieve against them in order for us to pass them. Cant say we are mentally particularly very strong and certainly not consistent. I think we may have given ourselves too much to do this season but its early days so you never know
Anything is still possible for CCFC ....... it is good to be regularly winning a few, that for me i think is the progress so far and the biggest sense of relief
Certainly i dont want to be negative about it all, dont want to get carries away either though........... somewhere around 10th finish for me ........ but a team should always target the top until such time as that is taken away from them..... have never held with accepting mediocrity, thats far too comfortable and easy and fails to get the best from the team
there is a slow steady trend upward but it is hard to call it significant at the moment ...... MR started at 23rd and the trend would indicate a current average at 20th but we are actually 16th. I think we should take from it that we have a start of a fragile revival, certainly 3 wins out of 4 isnt anything like relegation form, but we all know how inconsistent we are.
I think in all these playoff predictions we tend to ignore the teams already ahead of us and assume we will catch them......... all of the top 6 or 7 could maintain and match their form to ours, not to mention teams like Doncaster, Preston and Bournemouth getting themselves in the mix. We are 11 points behind playoffs ........... that means that the teams there at the moment can afford 3 slip ups and still be ahead of us and we have already played them all once taking 6 out of a possible 21 points from the top 7 teams.
You would have to assume that the top 8 or 9 teams could match our results against the lower teams (excluding us) that makes beating the current top teams crucial in terms of making play offs. Puts the pressure currently on us to achieve against them in order for us to pass them. Cant say we are mentally particularly very strong and certainly not consistent. I think we may have given ourselves too much to do this season but its early days so you never know
Anything is still possible for CCFC ....... it is good to be regularly winning a few, that for me i think is the progress so far and the biggest sense of relief
Certainly i dont want to be negative about it all, dont want to get carries away either though........... somewhere around 10th finish for me ........ but a team should always target the top until such time as that is taken away from them..... have never held with accepting mediocrity, thats far too comfortable and easy and fails to get the best from the team
Last edited:
hill83
Well-Known Member
I seriously doubt he thinks we could get promoted this year. There is a much higher chance of Peterborough being in the championship next season than us.
stupot07
Well-Known Member
Sensible post OSB, I said 12th.
And your right what you said about other teams form, we have won 3 of the last 4, but before that we had lost 2 and drawn 1, and in the current form table which is the last 6 games there are 10 teams that have picked up more points than us in the last 6 and another 4 that have matched our form.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
No it shows 67 points what are you on about?
SkyblueBazza
Well-Known Member
Errr...look at the orange bars...they show the league position in terms of places up from the bottom. The longer the bar = the further up the league we are. Now maybe You see something different - but the orange bars are getting longer which means we are climbing the table...which surely reflects an upward trend?
The orange bars are our points scored. That will only ever go up actually unless we get points decducted for entering admin etc. Our position is the wavy thing in the middle. According to the graph we were 23rd when Robins took us over we have gained seven places, but it's had some ups and downs.
We've picked up 7 places in 11 games with Robins in charge, which sounds brilliant, but to suggest that means current form will see us be ninth after 29 games, and then 2nd after 40 games is to show a basic lack of understanding of statistics.
While we are picking up points and I'm very pleased with the way Robins seems to be going about the job, we are still drifting slowly away from the top 6.
Hopefully 17 points from 10 games is the consistent level we'll be at for the rest of the season, plus the occassional 'purple patch'. If, and it's a big if, that happens, we might just sneak into the play-offs.
What I don't want to see though is people becoming so expectant of promotion that a steady mid-table finish is looked on as some kind of failure.
While we are picking up points and I'm very pleased with the way Robins seems to be going about the job, we are still drifting slowly away from the top 6.
Hopefully 17 points from 10 games is the consistent level we'll be at for the rest of the season, plus the occassional 'purple patch'. If, and it's a big if, that happens, we might just sneak into the play-offs.
What I don't want to see though is people becoming so expectant of promotion that a steady mid-table finish is looked on as some kind of failure.
SkyBlue_Bear83
Well-Known Member
Excellent point, we could maintain a play off point average between now and the end of the season but we have given away too much ground early on
In the last 28 matches we have to better the likes of Crawley, Notts, Stevanage results by 10-12 points
Even if we did really well and got 50-52 points from the last 28 games that would leave the likes of Stevanage/Notts/Swindon needing roughly 40 points from the last 28 games to stay ahead of us which is like upper midtable form
Otis
Well-Known Member
I am the opposite. Always been an optimist,but last season and this have become very much a realist.
ThisManHere
New Member
17th. Regardless.