shmmeee
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Do you support the NHS?
Not really the compass is rubbish and all its really achieved, if anything, is make the forum righties look more balanced than the forum lefties (no real surprise there.)
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Swear you voted UKIP? Thankfully the Majority of people aren't socialists.Everyone is a socialist, most just don’t realise it. My advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos.
Of course he does, here you go again trying to create something that isn't there......embarrassing really.Do you support the NHS?
Do you support the NHS?
Bollocks.
Be more specific, please.
- Do you agree that state-funded healthcare free at the point of use is desirable? Yes
- Do you agree that nationalised health care is superior to a competitive marketplace? No
- Does the worship of the NHS make you angry, especially in the light of some terrible service you've experienced? Yes
You're not going to like this, but I'll say it anyway. Many socialists are people who feel the same way about outcomes as many centrists, but they just haven't appreciated that life is more nuanced than they think... and that state control of services is a very sub-optimal. The NHS is a proxy for socialism IMO, which is why it gets venerated so much by people pushing a socialist agenda.
You’d better go tell the British Election Survey people then. I’ll take their data over your inability to string a sentence together thanks.
I think we've played this over many times. I wouldn't want rid of it, no but I would go private if I can afford it in future. Like Trench says, the worship of it is a bit cringe, I've dealt with just as many inept cretins working for the NHS as I have in any other profession.Do you support the NHS?
I think we've played this over many times. I wouldn't want rid of it, no but I would go private if I can afford it in future. Like Trench says, the worship of it is a bit cringe, I've dealt with just as many inept cretins working for the NHS as I have in any other profession.
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Socialism isn't wanted in the UK mate, stop crying yourself to sleep every night over it.
Yes I know the English right is further left than many Conservative parties globally, and I don't have a problem with that. English right suits me. The positioning of the political parties on the compass is rubbish though.You’ve deflected a lot but I think you’re saying you don’t want to abolish the NHS. That’s a very left wing position globally. It puts you well to the left of most people.
That’s my point, it’s not some “haha you should vote Labour” gotcha, just a reminder that whats “right wing” in the U.K. is still pretty socialist.
As I showed earlier, pretty much every voter in the U.K. is in the left wing authoritarian space, we’re just arguing over which corner of the corner we’re in. It’s the Labour Party internal squabbling writ large.
Yes I know the English right is further left than many Conservative parties globally, and I don't have a problem with that. English right suits me. The positioning of the political parties on the compass is rubbish though.
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Some lefty loon has basically gone omg Tories are literally Nazis.Bollocks isn't it?
That emoji sums you up, always bitching and crying about things not going your way. You really are the biggest tosser on the forum!Data say otherwise. Sorry you can’t read it
It’s not strange at all. It’s as simple as following my own advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos. Also to compare the Tory government of John Major to this bunch of morons is no comparison at all.Strange as The Tonester voted UKIP and admits to regularly voting Tory. Did he confuse them with the Socialist Revolutionary Party
OK I did it again ...and thought about my answers .
Which is hard for me ...thinking that is View attachment 20220
I would say my red dot should go 4 squares up and 2 to the right in all honesty
It’s not strange at all. It’s as simple as following my own advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos. Also to compare the Tory government of John Major to this bunch of morons is no comparison at all.
Tony's a UKIP voter, don't let him fool you.Listen up, @Grendel , you're being lessoned by the most formidable intellect in political science this country has ever known.
Data say otherwise. Sorry you can’t read it
Tony's a UKIP voter, don't let him fool you.
Data is great just a shame the votes don’t say the same ey? I’m baffled as to why the loudest in these threads think they’re the majority despite elections and referendums consistently proving them wrong
Data is great just a shame the votes don’t say the same ey? I’m baffled as to why the loudest in these threads think they’re the majority despite elections and referendums consistently proving them wrong
Not really the compass is rubbish and all its really achieved, if anything, is make the forum righties look more balanced than the forum lefties (no real surprise there.)
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Of course he does, here you go again trying to create something that isn't there......embarrassing really.
Its self reported you lemon.
Do you need me to break the crayons out so you get my point?
It’s not strange at all. It’s as simple as following my own advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos. Also to compare the Tory government of John Major to this bunch of morons is no comparison at all.
I’m still undecided on wether I called that right or not but I definitely do regret voting for Cameron in 2015.
Well, apart from the fact the NHS is the very epitome of socialist thinking. Healthcare for all regardless of ability to pay.
Capitalist thinking would deny any healthcare to anyone that couldn't afford it. Even the most capitalist nation on the planet in America they have a very basic level of healthcare paid for by the state. It would also deny any kind of social security/pension/job seekers allowance/widows benefit/child allowance. If you can't pay for it, tough shit - earn more money so you can.
Even the banks became socialists in the banking crisis - quite happy to take on handouts from the government then.
That must be why the majority turned down furlough payments, didn’t take up eat out to help out etc.Swear you voted UKIP? Thankfully the Majority of people aren't socialists.
I think we've played this over many times. I wouldn't want rid of it, no but I would go private if I can afford it in future. Like Trench says, the worship of it is a bit cringe, I've dealt with just as many inept cretins working for the NHS as I have in any other profession.
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Have you actually said anything relevant ever?Why mention John Major when you are a full fledged bullingdon supporter?
Was the regret not going the full Farage again that year?
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