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What's your political compass? (11 Viewers)

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Evo1883

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #36
Bugsy said:
Your personal view is what I took from it
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No what is a left wing authoritarian I mean
 
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Bugsy

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #37
Evo1883 said:
No what is a left wing authoritarian I mean
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Someone who knows football and is a top shagger is what I took from it
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #38
BTW my actual results were almost in the middle but slightly in left wing authoritarian.

But looking it up , I can't really find much about it .

Hence my question .

I will admit there were a couple of questions I didn't really understand , part of the reason for that is being a thick c**t from tile hill .
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #39
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #40
Literally worse than Hitler.

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TomRad85

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #41
Although I feel like some questions lead you a bit and there should also be the I don't give a fuck option.

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stupot07

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #42
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shmmeee

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #43
Evo1883 said:
BTW my actual results were almost in the middle but slightly in left wing authoritarian.

But looking it up , I can't really find much about it .

Hence my question .

I will admit there were a couple of questions I didn't really understand , part of the reason for that is being a thick c**t from tile hill .
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So there’s several axis you can try and measure political alignment on, but the most common and the one used here is economic on the left/right axis (left being generally government should get involved in the economy and right they shouldn’t), and how liberal or authoritarian you are socially on the up/down axis.

“authoritarian” is a funny term and different political scientists call it different things like “small c conservative” or “socially conservative” or “communitarian” because authoritarian sounds bad. Basically it’s the idea that the needs of the group outweigh the needs of the individual. You’re more likely to be for things like respect for authority, traditional values, community, country. “Faith and flag” it’s sometimes called.

Rationally economic liberalism (right wing) goes best with social liberalism, and economic control (left wing) goes best with social control (authoritarianism), but people being people we seem to have ended up with a right wing authoritarian and a liberal left party despite most people being left wing authoritarians.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #44
I know it's hardly a massive sample and I think some of the questions felt a bit leading but it does seem odd that the results of our little data set don't put anyone, even those more right wing, anywhere near most of the right-wing parties. Even Grendel, who so far has been a bit of an outlier, isn't near the likes of the Tories.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #45
shmmeee said:
So there’s several axis you can try and measure political alignment on, but the most common and the one used here is economic on the left/right axis (left being generally government should get involved in the economy and right they shouldn’t), and how liberal or authoritarian you are socially on the up/down axis.

“authoritarian” is a funny term and different political scientists call it different things like “small c conservative” or “socially conservative” or “communitarian” because authoritarian sounds bad. Basically it’s the idea that the needs of the group outweigh the needs of the individual. You’re more likely to be for things like respect for authority, traditional values, community, country. “Faith and flag” it’s sometimes called.

Rationally economic liberalism (right wing) goes best with social liberalism, and economic control (left wing) goes best with social control (authoritarianism), but people being people we seem to have ended up with a right wing authoritarian and a liberal left party despite most people being left wing authoritarians.
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Cheers mate
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #46
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I know it's hardly a massive sample and I think some of the questions felt a bit leading but it does seem odd that the results of our little data set don't put anyone, even those more right wing, anywhere near most of the right-wing parties. Even Grendel, who so far has been a bit of an outlier, isn't near the likes of the Tories.
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I'd like to know how they decided to place the parties on there as it looks a little bit like bullshit.

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Evo1883

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #47
TomRad85 said:
I'd like to know how they decided to place the parties on there as it looks a little bit like bullshit.

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Surely most mainstream political parties would be near the centre dot ?

Centre left and centre right ?
 

TomRad85

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #48
Evo1883 said:
Surely most mainstream political parties would be near the centre dot ?

Centre left and centre right ?
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I'm definitely more to the right than your average lib dem. Don't need a test to tell me that. So yehhh, it's bollocks.

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rob9872

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #49
Only read page 1 and the answer couldn't give a flying fek didn't appear on any of them. If it did I'd have probably used it on all. Where that puts me no idea, probably bang on the cross I guess!
 
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Grendel

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #50
shmmeee said:
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What a hideous thought
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #51
TomRad85 said:
I'm definitely more to the right than your average lib dem. Don't need a test to tell me that. So yehhh, it's bollocks.

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The mapping of the parties is bollocks but then I believe the site has a left wing agenda, which is portrayed in its blogs. My guess is that the dots are based upon an interpretation, if any, of manifestos rather than individual polling.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #52
OK I did it again ...and thought about my answers .
Which is hard for me ...thinking that is

I would say my red dot should go 4 squares up and 2 to the right in all honesty
 
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Grendel

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #53
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I know it's hardly a massive sample and I think some of the questions felt a bit leading but it does seem odd that the results of our little data set don't put anyone, even those more right wing, anywhere near most of the right-wing parties. Even Grendel, who so far has been a bit of an outlier, isn't near the likes of the Tories.
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The scoring is nonsense and tries to make out you have to be Attila the Hun to vote Tory - the reality is in voting patterns over the last 4 decades
 

TomRad85

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #54
dubed said:
The mapping of the parties is bollocks but then I believe the site has a left wing agenda, which is portrayed in its blogs. My guess is that the dots are based upon an interpretation, if any, of manifestos rather than individual polling.
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Pretty much what I thought tbh. Still mildly interesting though.

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Evo1883

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #55
I describe myself as a centrist tbh .

Hated by everybody
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #56
Grendel said:
The scoring.... tries to make out you have to be Attila the Hun to vote Tory
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According to some here that's exactly the case.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #57
Grendel said:
The scoring is nonsense and tries to make out you have to be Attila the Hun to vote Tory - the reality is in voting patterns over the last 4 decades
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It’s heavily skewed to US politics I believe so does push everyone left. I’m not at all convinced by their placements of political parties either. Fun though.
 

Kneeza

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #58
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #59
Grendel said:
The scoring is nonsense and tries to make out you have to be Attila the Hun to vote Tory - the reality is in voting patterns over the last 4 decades
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That's kind of what I was getting at. No way can those party political dots be representative given where everyone is turning up and that for so many people to be that far into the bottom left quadrant they need to reassess what is centrist. A lot of us a further left than even the most left wing of parties.

If of course it's done against a more historical setting then it shows people are migrating to the left ideologically. For example you'd find most modern right wingers views on things like sexuality, religion, gender, race etc to be very liberal compared to a generation ago.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #60
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #61
Pass me that tree to hug.

 
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Otis

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #62
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • May 24, 2021
  • #63
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 24, 2021
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skybluetony176

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #65
Everyone is a socialist, most just don’t realise it. My advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #66
skybluetony176 said:
Everyone is a socialist, most just don’t realise it. My advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos.
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Not really the compass is rubbish and all its really achieved, if anything, is make the forum righties look more balanced than the forum lefties (no real surprise there.)

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Grendel

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #67
Evo1883 said:
Basically I'm stalin
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You are in the top right?
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #68
TomRad85 said:
Not really the compass is rubbish and all its really achieved, if anything, is make the forum righties look more balanced than the forum lefties (no real surprise there.)

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Ha ha ha. Yeah, more balanced. There was two ways to answer those questions. Like you’re a complete c**t or compassionately. Showing compassion seems to put you in the bottom left.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #69
skybluetony176 said:
Ha ha ha. Yeah, more balanced. There was two ways to answer those questions. Like you’re a complete c**t or compassionately. Showing compassion seems to put you in the bottom left.
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Yawn.

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Grendel

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #70
TomRad85 said:
Yawn.

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Strange as The Tonester voted UKIP and admits to regularly voting Tory. Did he confuse them with the Socialist Revolutionary Party
 
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