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What is going on with the Tory leadership contest? (14 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jun 8, 2019
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #36
The funniest thing is watching the Guardian columnists and their love-in with Rory Stewart.. like he's suddenly found himself in the wrong party.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #37
I think it's more the unfamiliarity. Like Clegg-mania and Corbyn. Just hasn't been under enough scrutiny yet. Compared to the likes of Johnson, Gove, Hunt, Leadsom etc he seems to be a bit less hardcore so I guess it's choosing the best of bad options. Not that it matters as I doubt many Tory members take heed of what the Guardian says
 

skybluegod

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #38
Sick Boy said:
Johnson becoming PM would be a new low for the country, it would be majorly embarrassing
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As would Corbyn becoming PM- not exactly blessed on either side, I think Boris is the obvious choice as he the extreme opposite to Corbyn.

Both would be a shambles. God help us.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #39
Ian1779 said:
The funniest thing is watching the Guardian columnists and their love-in with Rory Stewart.. like he's suddenly found himself in the wrong party.
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To be fair to him he has done proper jobs before and by all accounts has done a decent job as prisons minister.
Also winning the drugathon with his opium confession.
Highly unlikely he'll win but if we are to have a Tory government I'd make him foreign secretary. With his military and diplomatic work he has a much better grasp of what's going on in the middle East than most
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #40
clint van damme said:
To be fair to him he has done proper jobs before and by all accounts has done a decent job as prisons minister.
Also winning the drugathon with his opium confession.
Highly unlikely he'll win but if we are to have a Tory government I'd make him foreign secretary. With his military and diplomatic work he has a much better grasp of what's going on in the middle East than most
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But you can’t take the Tory out of him.... which means underneath he’s another cruel fucker happy to serve the elite... he’s just packaged nicer.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #41
skybluegod said:
As would Corbyn becoming PM- not exactly blessed on either side, I think Boris is the obvious choice as he the extreme opposite to Corbyn.

Both would be a shambles. God help us.
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Have you read anything other than the Daily Mail this lifetime?
 

skybluegod

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #42
Ian1779 said:
Have you read anything other than the Daily Mail this lifetime?
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Bit of a crap response which doesn't even make sense.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #43
skybluegod said:
Bit of a crap response which doesn't even make sense.
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Which followed on nicely from the fact you stated Boris would be as bad as Corbyn... an equally shite conclusion to come to.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #44
Boris seems very scared to answer questions.
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #45
skybluetony176 said:
Boris seems very scared to answer questions.
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Something to hide perhaps?
 

skybluegod

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #46
Ian1779 said:
Which followed on nicely from the fact you stated Boris would be as bad as Corbyn... an equally shite conclusion to come to.
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Please feel free to show where I said Boris would be as bad as Corbyn...

Clearly you don't even read... I said both would be a shambles. Didn't say which one would be better/worse. Just don't think that either would lead the country forward at least not meaningfully
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #47
Cov City Daytrader 87 said:
Something to hide perhaps?
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I think it’s because if he starts answering more than 6 questions in a row his contradictions come to the forefront.
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #48
skybluetony176 said:
I think it’s because if he starts answering more than 6 questions in a row his contradictions come to the forefront.
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A field day for the newspapers and news programmes to ridicule him.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #49
skybluegod said:
Please feel free to show where I said Boris would be as bad as Corbyn...

Clearly you don't even read... I said both would be a shambles. Didn't say which one would be better/worse. Just don't think that either would lead the country forward at least not meaningfully
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Well if me interpreting ‘as would...’ as something different to being as bad - then I’m clearly in the wrong.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #50
Cov City Daytrader 87 said:
A field day for the newspapers and news programmes to ridicule him.
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But they never will... we all know the ‘media’ choice (sorry Murdoch choice) is either Johnson or Gove.
 

skybluegod

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #51
Ian1779 said:
Well if me interpreting ‘as would...’ as something different to being as bad - then I’m clearly in the wrong.
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Yes you are. Saying someone would be a bad choice doesn't mean as bad. Otherwise I would have said 'Corbyn would be as bad'
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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  • Jun 12, 2019
  • #52
Ian1779 said:
But they never will... we all know the ‘media’ choice (sorry Murdoch choice) is either Johnson or Gove.
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Murdoch right wing media, I'll agree on that, but not the left wing ones. They probably wouldn't care and just ridicule whoever is the leader of the Torys.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #53
Ian1779 said:
The funniest thing is watching the Guardian columnists and their love-in with Rory Stewart.. like he's suddenly found himself in the wrong party.
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lol fell at the first hurdle.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say Gove will pack it in and get behind Boris.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #54
RegTheDonk said:
lol fell at the first hurdle.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say Gove will pack it in and get behind Boris.
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He didn't.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #55
RegTheDonk said:
lol fell at the first hurdle.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say Gove will pack it in and get behind Boris.
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I reckon it will end up being Hunt. They’d be insane to have Boris as PM.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #56
Sick Boy said:
I reckon it will end up being Hunt. They’d be insane to have Boris as PM.
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Jeremy Hunt is the safe option, what a time to be alive.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #57
clint van damme said:
He didn't.
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Early days clint.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #58
RegTheDonk said:
Early days clint.
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I don't think for one minute he'll win but he has made it in to the next round.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #59
clint van damme said:
I don't think for one minute he'll win but he has made it in to the next round.
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My apologies clint, I thought it was him not Harper who had gone.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #60
Just glad that spiteful c*nt McVey went out with the lowest nominations.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #61
Ian1779 said:
Just glad that spiteful c*nt McVey went out with the lowest nominations.
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She's also thick as fuck and would give Boris a run for her money when it comes to lying.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #62
Sick Boy said:
I reckon it will end up being Hunt. They’d be insane to have Boris as PM.
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Problem is if Johnson gets in the top two, the crazy-arsed members will vote for him.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #63
Deleted member 5849 said:
Problem is if Johnson gets in the top two, the crazy-arsed members will vote for him.
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Yes members never reflect the electorate which is why Mr Corbyn is still one of the most unpopular political leaders in political history
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #64
Sick Boy said:
I reckon it will end up being Hunt. They’d be insane to have Boris as PM.
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I see no other possibility now
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #65
Part of me in hindsight is wishing that last time rather than be pleased Boris got shafted I wish he'd got it, cos at least now we'd have got it over and done with, like chicken pox as a child. He (or anybody else) wouldn't have got Brexit done and we could now be looking back on his failure rather than dreading his ascension and it'd be one down, sadly a fair few more to go.

It seems to me that the media is going for Boris on this one as there's so many almost open secrets about his past that the papers won't touch that would almost instantly kill off his entire political career let alone a PM bid. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Gove cocaine revelations weren't a revenge by Boris for him stabbing him in the back last time and a pre-emptive strike to keep the rat faced arse from trying anything similar this time.

But whether it's him, Gove or Hunt (who I see as the Mike Pence to Boris' Trump in that he's a bit more stable but arguably ideologically even more dangerous) we'll see the same ubercapitalism of helping the rich while demonising those on benefits etc. as work-shy rather than more often than not underpaid.

The best I'm hoping for it getting the popcorn out and watching the entire thing from behind the sofa as it comes crashing down as even more people will be out to discover the skeletons.

I reckon we'll see Boris get it and Hunt and Gove as Chancellor and Home Office. I think Rory would be good at the Foreign Office with his multilingual skills. Javid might get something like Defence for equality and similarly Leadsom might get education (because she's a mother apparently, although she never mentions it). I would however laugh like a fucking hyena if he threw Gove under the bus and made him Brexit secretary

When you look at situations like this and you remember Yes Minister and The Thick Of It you wonder is the reality actually even more bat-shit crazy than the fiction.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2019
  • #66
Just a thought. In between handing money out to the rich has Boris pledged to cancel runway 3? Not heard anything but presumably Boris I will lay down in front diggers Johnson will be able to do this as PM?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #67
Grendel said:
I see no other possibility now
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He’s managed to avoid debates and answering questions so far, okay he has answered 6...he would be an unwise choice for them in the long term
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #68
Sick Boy said:
He’s managed to avoid debates and answering questions so far, okay he has answered 6...he would be an unwise choice for them in the long term
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He’s definitely going to be in the last 2 - I can’t see members opposing him

He won’t be long term - they just want someone who they think will deliver Brexit so Farage goes away and then thumps Corbyn in a GE after we have left
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #69
I'm sure I'll be shot down for this, but why doesn't everyone pay the same amount of tax anyway? If people have studied or work really hard to earn more money then why should they be taxed at higher levels?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 14, 2019
  • #70
Marty said:
I'm sure I'll be shot down for this, but why doesn't everyone pay the same amount of tax anyway? If people have studied or work really hard to earn more money then why should they be taxed at higher levels?
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I agree, so Amazon, Vodafone etc pay 20 percent on everything over 11 grand, sounds good to me.
 
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