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What are Sisu's motives for staying? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 31, 2016
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Grendel

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #176
Sky Blue Kid said:
And you're not?
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If tax payers lost out yes id be angry - with the council as they will have had to have done something wrong in their process.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #177
Grendel said:
If tax payers lost out yes id be angry - with the council as they will have had to have done something wrong in their process.
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How many court cases have SISU won over the years? Now ask yourself, How many court cases have SISU won when being in the wrong, but as Fisher would say..... We just batter the opposition till we win. Have you never thought the only reason they keep winning court cases they have a bottomless pit of money and whoever they are "Battering" just can't afford to "Fight their corner"?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #178
Sky Blue Kid said:
How many court cases have SISU won over the years? Now ask yourself, How many court cases have SISU won when being in the wrong, but as Fisher would say..... We just batter the opposition till we win. Have you never thought the only reason they keep winning court cases they have a bottomless pit of money and whoever they are "Battering" just can't afford to "Fight their corner"?
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They've won none when they have been in the wrong.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #179
Sky Blue Kid said:
FFS man!!! I never said Lord Justice Ryder said that. Read it properly I'm getting a f**king headache reading your shit. The Headline that I linked to says it. Are you f**king blind or what...... Is there anyone who knows how to explain to this idiot how the compensation would be paid/reclaimed by Central Government/CCC.... A little hint Ian1779... YOU wrote how it would by reclaimed ffs!
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So now the headline is the fact. The one written by the CET??

I never disagreed with the assertion of how it would be paid. I disagreed with your scaremongering propaganda in which you glossed over the fact that potentially some wrong was done by one party and instead blamed the other for having the audacity to challenge it.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #180
Grendel said:
If tax payers lost out yes id be angry - with the council as they will have had to have done something wrong in their process.
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Well!... There's a turnaround from the Torchy, Grenduffy partnership shouting "We want SISU/CCFC to beat the crap out of CCC. Or do you deny this?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #181
Grendel said:
They've won none when they have been in the wrong.
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So you think they've won every court case and not been to blame for anything? Don't forget Fisher said "We just batter the opposition into submission".... If you do, then I would suggest you're a very Naive man indeed.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #182
Sky Blue Kid said:
How many court cases have SISU won over the years? Now ask yourself, How many court cases have SISU won when being in the wrong, but as Fisher would say..... We just batter the opposition till we win. Have you never thought the only reason they keep winning court cases they have a bottomless pit of money and whoever they are "Battering" just can't afford to "Fight their corner"?
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I'll say again what I said earlier. Your hatred of SISU is such you can't rationally look at an argument.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #183
Ian1779 said:
So now the headline is the fact. The one written by the CET?? 

I never disagreed with the assertion of how it would be paid. I disagreed with your scaremongering propaganda in which you glossed over the fact that potentially some wrong was done by one party and instead blamed the other for having the audacity to challenge it.
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I give up mate.... You sure your name isn't Tim Fisher?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #184
Sky Blue Kid said:
So you think they've won every court case and not been to blame for anything? Don't forget Fisher said "We just batter the opposition into submission".... If you do, then I would suggest you're a very Naive man indeed.
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Show me a court case where that applies then.

You really should keep off the meths you know. It does you no good.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #185
Sky Blue Kid said:
I give up mate.... You sure your name isn't Tim Fisher?
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Is yours Benjamin Hawkins?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #186
Ian1779 said:
I'll say again what I said earlier. Your hatred of SISU is such you can't rationally look at an argument.
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The whole point is I am being rational, The judge has said there may be Compensation to be paid out. He never said it would be Coventry tax payers that pay it out. The inevitability is.... As the Newspaper quite rightly says the Coventry tax payer will be where the compensation money will eventually come from... As you yourself said.. "In an increase of "Council Tax" which will be one of many other increases
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #187
Grendel said:
They've won none when they have been in the wrong.
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Didn't you say that they should win the appeal but they won't? Sounds like you've changed your mind.
 
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Limey

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #188
Could have provided some wonga for a half decent striker and a winger to see us cement top 6 place.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #189
Sky Blue Kid said:
The whole point is I am being rational, The judge has said there may be Compensation to be paid out. He never said it would be Coventry tax payers that pay it out. The inevitability is.... As the Newspaper quite rightly says the Coventry tax payer will be where the compensation money will eventually come from... As you yourself said.. "In an increase of "Council Tax" which will be one of many other increases
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But only if the council are found to have done something wrong..
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #190
Sky Blue Kid said:
The whole point is I am being rational, The judge has said there may be Compensation to be paid out. He never said it would be Coventry tax payers that pay it out. The inevitability is.... As the Newspaper quite rightly says the Coventry tax payer will be where the compensation money will eventually come from... As you yourself said.. "In an increase of "Council Tax" which will be one of many other increases
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The rational approach is to be rightly concerned about impact on normal people but moreover to be looking to hold the parties that may be in the wrong to account.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #191
Ian1779 said:
The rational approach is to be rightly concerned about impact on normal people but moreover to be looking to hold the parties that may be in the wrong to account.
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And the party, in your eyes is CCC. I hope for the sake of the people of Coventry that you're 100% wrong.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #192
Grendel said:
Is yours Benjamin Hawkins?
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Yours isn't Joseph Merrick is it?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #193
Ian1779 said:
I think I read it in an article concerning wage budgets around the beginning of the season.

In addition - which in truth is slightly conjecture - we have the third biggest average gate at home - by some margin from 4th. This would help to generate a reasonable sized playing budget.
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But you forget that Walsall make millions from that Sunday car boot sale
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #194
Ian1779 said:
I'll say again what I said earlier. Your hatred of SISU is such you can't rationally look at an argument.
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And I'll say this... My hatred of SISU started from the moment I heard they were interested in taking control of our Football Club. I've never waivered in my hatred for them, and never will. To this day I will say this. The day they go won't be a day too soon.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #195
Sky Blue Kid said:
And the party, in your eyes is CCC. I hope for the sake of the people of Coventry that you're 100% wrong.
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I'm more interested in the truth after everything that has happened since we even began to consider the move to the Ricoh.

Both parties are morally bankrupt - that much we can agree on. SISU moving us to Northampton is on the same level as the council selling the Ricoh to Wasps.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #196
letsallsingtogether said:
But you forget that Walsall make millions from that Sunday car boot sale
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IKEA do car boot sales now?
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #197
Ian1779 said:
IKEA do car boot sales now? 
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Not as good as Walsalls!
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #198
Ian1779 said:
I'm more interested in the truth after everything that has happened since we even began to consider the move to the Ricoh.

Both parties are morally bankrupt - that much we can agree on. SISU moving us to Northampton is on the same level as the council selling the Ricoh to Wasps.
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Or SISU battering some poor little business into submission and technically stealing said business.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #199
Ian1779 said:
IKEA do car boot sales now?
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Must be a good earner then.......
 

Samo

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #200
Sky Blue Kid said:
Or SISU battering some poor little business into submission and technically stealing said business.
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Well technically not stealing, that's the point.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #201
Samo said:
Well technically not stealing, that's the point.
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Yeh you're right, but you know what I mean
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #202
stupot07 said:
Yeovil got promoted a few seasons back on less than half our budget this season,
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Turned outwell for them, too.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #203
Deleted member 5849 said:
Turned outwell for them, too.
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Be interesting to see if Burton do the same as Yeovil as I can only see them struggling next year and once the momentum has gone, saying that based only tipping ability they will get promoted
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #204
OyJimmy said:
Just wondering why Sisu are still here. The own a club without a stadium. Gates are weak. They will need to spend to get Coventry promoted.

Is the effort they are putting in really with their while?
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Yes, the directors do quite well out of it. All the proceeds from the disposal of assets go to Sisu while all the running costs become debts of the club.

OyJimmy said:
Why not sell up and give someone else a go?
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Because nobody in their right mind would buy it, they'd just be buying the club's debts and no assets. And Sisu can call in those debts at any time they like.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #205
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Be interesting to see if Burton do the same as Yeovil as I can only see them struggling next year and once the momentum has gone, saying that based only tipping ability they will get promoted 
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I rate Clough as an excellent, truly excellent manager who'd have been ideally suited to a 60s or 70s managerial gig, where a club'd give him time to build.

For his own sake, he should jump as soon as he gets a bigger chance, though!

If we can't go up, the likes of Burton going up give me back a little faith in football, whatever happens next season.
 

Calista

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #206
shmmeee said:
Joy Seppala's secret doomsday weapon runs on the tears of Coventrians.
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Finally, an explanation that's consistent with all the facts!
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #207
Deleted member 5849 said:
Turned outwell for them, too.
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Yep, it was always going to be difficult when you only get an average of 6.5k attendances in the championship. They could have been in a far worse position of they'd have thrown money at the club and spent beyond their means.

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Covstu

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #208
skybluetony176 said:
TM was warning everyone to not get carried away long before we looked like slipping pointing to his previous experience with Middlesborough. Seems to me it's the standard that is unrealistic expectations of the fans is the problem not the standard the manager was setting himself. If people cared to listen to him instead of getting carried away they'd probably not be so disapointed now. They only have themselves to blame because they didn't heed the warning, seems TM understood how good this team was all along if you actually listen to what he's been saying all season.
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Absolutely spot on.
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #209
skybluetony176 said:
TM was warning everyone to not get carried away long before we looked like slipping pointing to his previous experience with Middlesborough. Seems to me it's the standard that is unrealistic expectations of the fans is the problem not the standard the manager was setting himself. If people cared to listen to him instead of getting carried away they'd probably not be so disapointed now. They only have themselves to blame because they didn't heed the warning, seems TM understood how good this team was all along if you actually listen to what he's been saying all season.
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Whilst he did warn against getting carried, 4 wins and 19 points in 22 games is unacceptable regardless of whether our expectations were unrealistic.

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stupot07

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  • Apr 1, 2016
  • #210
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