Weight and working out (2 Viewers)
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Sky_Blue_Daz
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My biggest issue is the beer , I have a couple of cans most nights then quite a few at the weekend . Really need to break the habit , still a bit stiff and sore from Tuesday night but will go for a run later
chiefdave
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Weightwatchers files for bankruptcy as Ozempic and Mounjaro surge in popularity
The firm is struggling with debt and tough competition from weight-loss drugs.
www.bbc.co.uk
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Just setting an example to their customers by losing a few pounds?Weightwatchers files for bankruptcy as Ozempic and Mounjaro surge in popularity
The firm is struggling with debt and tough competition from weight-loss drugs.
Ccfcisparks
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I can't believe the "Sins" method for losing weight still works. Calories in<Calories out is such an easy formula to follow.Weightwatchers files for bankruptcy as Ozempic and Mounjaro surge in popularity
The firm is struggling with debt and tough competition from weight-loss drugs.
fernandopartridge
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That's Slimming World isn't it?
Weightwatchers I'm not sure what the methodology is, though it's definitely not sustainable weight loss because the business model is premised on the opposite.
Ccfcisparks
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you're right. can you tell ive never used either?!
Captain Dart
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That doesn't work, it's flawed.
Why Calorie Counting Doesn’t Work
Calorie counting is one of the most popular ways to try and lose weight. Here, we’ll explain why it doesn’t work — and what does.
zoe.com
Ccfcisparks
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It quite clearly does work, its worked for millions and millions. Just because there are flaws to it doesn't mean it doesnt work on the whole. It's much more reliable than any other diet fadThat doesn't work, it's flawed.
Why Calorie Counting Doesn’t Work
Calorie counting is one of the most popular ways to try and lose weight. Here, we’ll explain why it doesn’t work — and what does.
Captain Dart
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The point is fails in the long term. I think the article I posted explains some of the mechanisms and pitfalls quite well.
shmmeee
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All weight loss fails in the long term. Obesity has one of the worse recidivism rates of any disease.
But all weight loss is CICO. Fad diets are just ways to restrict calorie intake.
Sky_Blue_Daz
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All the aches had gone this morning . Got a steady 5k done, and have done over 18k steps at work
chiefdave
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One of the biggest criticisms of the jabs has been the cost to the taxpayer if they were given to everyone who met the NICE guidelines, which is very much not people who want to use a few pounds but people who have multiple obesity related conditions.
New research seems to question that and could potentially change the government's approach.
New research seems to question that and could potentially change the government's approach.
shmmeee
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Interesting reading for a couple on here.
www.theatlantic.com
Ozempic Killed Diet and Exercise
Doctors might be slow to admit it, but Ozempic and other GLP-1 drugs are making dieting and exercise obsolete.
Sick Boy
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Exercise and eating well are highly beneficial for mental health and general well-being.Interesting reading for a couple on here.
Ozempic Killed Diet and Exercise
Doctors might be slow to admit it, but Ozempic and other GLP-1 drugs are making dieting and exercise obsolete.
shmmeee
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Sure I’m not sure anyone has ever said otherwise. I thought the trial results were interesting though.
Sick Boy
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Anything that helps combat obesity and save lives is a positive. I'd love there to be a monumental shift in attitudes towards promoting healthy eating / less processed food, but that's never going to happen with the money behind these corporations.
Ccfcisparks
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Totally agree. There are loads of studies linking a healthy gut biome to improved mental health. Since I cut out all processed food I can say thats true for me also.
These jabs are a good starting point for those that need it, but weight loss should be based in non processed food and prioritising gut health.
shmmeee
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I was saying somewhere else, I’m not someone who enjoys exercise outside of five a side, but when I’ve lived somewhere walkable I regularly walked and kept on top of my weight. I’m the same person in the same environment, but little things really add up around how you live your life. But “first reorganise society” doesn’t help people in the here and now. It’s one reason why I’m so pro walkable cities and public transport tho. So many huge pressures against a healthy activity level, car focus, WFH, time pressures.
shmmeee
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According to who?
Ccfcisparks
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In my opinion. I should have said. I'd wager those who do prioritise their gut biome and avoiding non processed food are much healthier physically and mentally than those that dont on average though.
shmmeee
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I think anyone that cares enough about their diet to follow a strict diet of any kind is likely to be healthier on average. I just think placing non scientific limits on how people can manage their weight is a bit silly.
Ccfcisparks
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Theres been lots of studies into Gut health and its links to mental health and weight loss.
shmmeee
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Was looking at stats around food delivery the other day. The data I saw had us as way out ahead in per capita orders from uber eats and the like. Something like 500m orders a year. I joked before but £5/delivery tax on that and worst case it’s £2.5bn a year for the NHS best case people stop ordering it and you solve half the illegal immigration issue too.
shmmeee
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Sure. I think what I’m saying is don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Like mental health anything that works is good stuff. No need to get bogged down in the absolute perfect way for every person. If it was as easy a few probiotic yoghurts or a gym membership we wouldn’t be where we are. Need all the tools to fight it.
Ccfcisparks
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Oh no absolutely. I just think for people using weight loss jabs, they need to back them up with healthy habits around that too.
Theres no doubt like you mentioned with the food delivery we are a nation that is tailoring more towards easy eating, although not as bad as the Americans!! I think better knowledge spreading around healthy habits would be good.
chiefdave
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Its so easy to get in to bad habits. I leave for work before 8, walk a few yards to my desk and then the vast majority of days don't get a break until I leave. Then its sitting in the car for 45 minutes to drive home. On a good day I'll get home at 7pm. I've then got 3 ish hours to exercise, make & eat dinner, deal with 2 elderly parents and any other things that need doing.
On my commute home I got past 5 drive throughs and god knows how many take aways. Its not really a shock that tired & stressed people think I can't be arsed to cook a healthy meal, I'll just stop off on the way home.
Ccfcisparks
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Yep. this is why WFH is so crucial for me, it really supports my ability to keep in healthy habits. Theres no wonder I'm in the best shape of my life, but working the most I ever have from home.
shmmeee
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I think a tax on drive through and delivery at least should come in. I remember going to the states twenty years ago and seeing drive through banks and laughing at how lazy they are, the only reason we don’t have them now is because banks aren’t a thing as much. Apart from anything else the air pollution from some of the Maccys drive through queues I see must be horrendous.
Ccfcisparks
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Uber eats is the worst, I remember at Uni one of my friends ubered mcdonalds breakfast. He lived opposite LOL.