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  • Start date Jul 24, 2020
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #141
Nick said:
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He’d know you’d think. I wonder why the deadline was not met

Ccfc saying one thing. Wasps saying they didn’t know there was a deadline. That sounds unbelievable to me
 
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CovInEssex

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #142
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Feel like we can expect a big fat statement from the club tomorrow morning
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I hope it's like one of them ones birds put on Facebook when there boyfriend has been shagging their best mate. Screenshots the lot.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #143
Sky Blue Pete said:
He’d know you’d think. I wonder why the deadline was not met

Ccfc saying one thing. Wasps saying they didn’t know there was a deadline. That sounds unbelievable to me
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I'd believe Overson over either of them but maybe that's naive?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #144
clint van damme said:
I'd believe Overson over either of them but maybe that's naive?
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I can do naive I struggle with illogical irrational and unclear
 
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CovInEssex

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #145
Can someone clear 2 things up for me.

Why isn't the EU court process thing considered legal action?

And I've forgot the other thing, it'll come back to me.
 
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covboy1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #146
wingy said:
EU decision been reached?
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EU decision crossed my mind - Something going on as apparently talks were going well
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #147
HAHA!

 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #148
CovInEssex said:
Can someone clear 2 things up for me.

Why isn't the EU court process thing considered legal action?

And I've forgot the other thing, it'll come back to me.
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Technically it is not in the court system yet. It's an investigation by an administrative body. If either party objects to the findings then it goes into the legal system as it falls under the European Court of Justice
 
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CovInEssex

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #149
I was lying in bed thinking about all this and I generally felt sick, still do now.

And I didn't even have a dogey kebab last night
 
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #150
I should imagine that Wasps are now in panic mode, having relied upon an agreement with CCFC. In my opinion, SISU have played a blinder in calling Wasp's bluff. If this results in Wasps going busy and leaving the Ricoh, so much the better.
Over the past 2 or 3 years SISU have backed the club 100% and got it running efficiently and now deserve out support. Their past faults and errors are in the past and cannot be changed, so why keep banging on about the past when there is now so much positivity around the club ?
 
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Lord_Nampil

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #151
the fact the football league announced the start of the new season yesterday to me seems there was a deadline that needed to be met.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #152
Lord_Nampil said:
the fact the football league announced the start of the new season yesterday to me seems there was a deadline that needed to be met.
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Course there was a deadline. I really hope joy gives the nda a see you later. Where’s it got us anyway? Unless there’s a deal when stadiums open up to agree
 

Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #153
jordan210 said:
Wasps say no indemnity on legal case. As the EU isn’t a legal case. Looks like a nice play on words
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THIS!!!!
 
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samccov1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #154
I can fully believe City released the statement before informing wasps but then I don’t believe that wasps weren’t aware the efl deadline had passed.

likewise I have no doubt wasps and ccc were caught on the hop with the Warwick uni statement.

Sisu are turning the screw here and for the first time I think we are on the front foot.

As a fan though I’m so sick of the whole situation. The Ricoh just doesn’t feel like home and all the potential it seemed to offer with additional revenue streams have been shown to be a myth; neither acl or wasps have been able to make it work.

Still not convinced we will do it, but building a bare bones football stadium with some separate retail units may suit are purposes far more than trying to maintain a site like the Ricoh with competition just down the road with a rebuilt NEC next to HS2, international airport and resorts world.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #155
We have wasps where we want them we are on the front foot here stop panicking over rushing back to the Ricoh & see this out we cannot rent a ground in our own city we need our own ground end of,it’s clear to see Wasps are desperate for us to come back they will break before CCFC
 
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Lord_Nampil

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #156
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course there was a deadline. I really hope joy gives the nda a see you later. Where’s it got us anyway? Unless there’s a deal when stadiums open up to agree
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WASPs have always come across as the good guys when they talk, the problem they have is they exploited a dispute between a local autority and a football club over an asset that they should never have been able to buy..... One day when the NDA is broken it will be clear why they are vultures and why they are as bad as what SISU are said to be, something i believe there not but the truth has always been twisted to make out what they are like. With the 2 new MPs fresh from the politics backing new stadium move and a return to the city shows there is a change on whats right for the city and that may be different....
 
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Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #157
Just wonder if there is any way Joy could get her friends in the City to further distress the Wasps Bond issue. This going forward is the critical issue.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #158
Sky Blue Pete said:
I can do naive I struggle with illogical irrational and unclear
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And commas, it seems.
 
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BackRoomRummermill

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #159
Some games being played here , as usual the fans suffer and wait. This is a crap start now to new season when everything was looking good ,
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #160
Lord_Nampil said:
WASPs have always come across as the good guys when they talk, the problem they have is they exploited a dispute between a local autority and a football club over an asset that they should never have been able to buy..... One day when the NDA is broken it will be clear why they are vultures and why they are as bad as what SISU are said to be, something i believe there not but the truth has always been twisted to make out what they are like. With the 2 new MPs fresh from the politics backing new stadium move and a return to the city shows there is a change on whats right for the city and that may be different....
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Have Wasps come across as the good guys or is that just how the Local Media and Sky Blue Trust etc present them?
 
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steveo1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #161
clint van damme said:
HAHA!

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Hammered on Twitter .
 

GaryJones

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #162
We really do need some detail & clarity on why these talks have ended in stalemate again.
We as fans and supporters are owed a full and frank honest breakdown of what went wrong here.
Wasps state it’s not the indemnity clause and Sisu say it’s the same problem as last time - I think by Wasps coming out and saying that’s it’s not the indemnity clause puts the NDA (Non disclosure agreement) in the bin surely.
I think SUSU should spell out clearly why they walked away - in plain English and then let Wasps comment - at least this way we can try and understand it from all sides.
The way it stands right now is confrontational and the battle lines have been drawn - come on Sisu & Wasps you need to be clear - you owe us that for the support we have given travelling to Birmingham last season at least!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #163
clint van damme said:
HAHA!

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Always the way with gimps like that. They have no consistency.

Wasps can have the prick.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #164
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Let the mudslinging games begin.

I really want to believe it is the Club that is in the right.

Tangible progress on this new stadium needs to be delivered this season. No excuses.
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The club is in the middle of all of this. We are just the pawn in the games played by Sisu, Wasps and CCC.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #165
I spoke to my Wycombe supporting mate about their run ins with Wasps and he dislikes them.

Found an interesting article summing up their state of affairs - see screenshot for a summary.

Link: Wasps 'have abused' supporters
 

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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #166
clint van damme said:
I'd believe Overson over either of them but maybe that's naive?
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Very. He works closely with the club. His position will be biased. He won’t be in the room, all his info will be what he’s told by the club. Just like everyone else.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #167
cc84cov said:
We have wasps where we want them we are on the front foot here stop panicking over rushing back to the Ricoh & see this out we cannot rent a ground in our own city we need our own ground end of,it’s clear to see Wasps are desperate for us to come back they will break before CCFC
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We're not, let's not kid ourselves that we're in a strong position
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #168
clint van damme said:
HAHA!

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I know Chris, he's a funny lad and I've had arguments with him about his embrace of Wasps, he just doesn't get it.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #169
Interesting how a so called supporters group who signed an NDA with a rugby club. Is banging on how amazing the deal is that we get a % of f&b and a shop at the stadium and so on.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #170
I don’t see how SISU are on the front foot? Someone is clearly lying here. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was SISU.

I emailed the Coventry NW MP last night. It’s time we scrapped the NDAs and got them both around a table with an independent mediator.

I don’t trust politicians at local level, so ive asked her to consider the economic impact of no CCFC to her ward.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #171
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course there was a deadline. I really hope joy gives the nda a see you later. Where’s it got us anyway? Unless there’s a deal when stadiums open up to agree
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Hahaha you think she doesn’t want the NDA? I like you Pete but you may the most credulous person on this site.
cc84cov said:
We have wasps where we want them we are on the front foot here stop panicking over rushing back to the Ricoh & see this out we cannot rent a ground in our own city we need our own ground end of,it’s clear to see Wasps are desperate for us to come back they will break before CCFC
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If Wasps were desperate, wouldn’t they just drop their conditions and have us back? It’s been Wasps demands from the start (if you believe what the club say), all the power is with them.

We aren’t “starving out” anyone. We simply want to keep trying to get the stadium and they want us to stop. That’s all it’s ever been, no matter what Nicks wall of photos and red string says. Sisu calculate its worth more to keep trying than we are losing.

Frankly that fact makes me doubt the stadium is a serious proposal and not another stalling tactic.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #172
shmmeee said:
Very. He works closely with the club. His position will be biased. He won’t be in the room, all his info will be what he’s told by the club. Just like everyone else.
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Really?

Was he biased when he publicly called Hoffman out for working with Wasps?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #173
jordan210 said:
Interesting how a so called supporters group who signed an NDA with a rugby club. Is banging on how amazing the deal is that we get a % of f&b and a shop at the stadium and so on.
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All together now:

It’s. Not. The. Fans. Fault.

None of it.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #174
This bit is telling

Sadly Coventry City’s late decision to withdraw today
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It wasn't Coventry City's decision, there was a deadline set by the EFL. I expect Wasps knew this full well.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #175
Nick said:
Really?

Was he biased when he publicly called Hoffman out for working with Wasps?
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Yes. Really. Do you think he’s in the negotiating room? Why would he be?
 
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