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  • Start date Jul 24, 2020
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #106
cc84cov said:
I’ll take that for now mate if it means we stand on our own 2 feet in 5 years time what’s the alternative ?
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I don't know tbh, it's all a big mess. I just hope fans can be patient if we do end up banished from the city for a while building a new stadium. It's taken a long time and a lot of effort to get the club back moving in a positive direction.
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #107
cc84cov said:
It's coming...
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I have a feeling it’s about to get real messy seems to me we have wasps just where we want them flapping and panicking SISU must have something up their sleeve here
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Absolutely, this whole week has been so carefully planned out that there has to be a smoking gun as I don't think they would make the same mistakes again as they did with sixfields and the pr around that
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #108
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I don't know tbh, it's all a big mess. I just hope fans can be patient if we do end up banished from the city for a while building a new stadium. It's taken a long time and a lot of effort to get the club back moving in a positive direction.
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We have no Choice mate give up or get behind them we’ve come this far in certainly not turning back now we need more numbers more people coming over to brum together we can do so much more
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #109
cc84cov said:
We have no Choice mate give up or get behind them we’ve come this far in certainly not turning back now we need more numbers more people coming over to brum together we can do so much more
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Don't worry pal, I'll be there when I can be just like last season
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #110
cc84cov said:
I’ll take that for now mate if it means we stand on our own 2 feet in 5 years time what’s the alternative ?
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Give up on chasing justice on the Ricoh, swallow your pride, and rent there. Thems the choices.
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The club has a ‘partner’ to work with on the project that is outside CCC jurisdiction. For the first time in those 7 years, there’s actually an opportunity to press on with their aspiration of building this new stadium.

I do doubt that without the good will of the CCC, a stadium project would be approved in their jurisdiction.

@WestEndAgro first floated this partnership with UoW about six years ago. Perhaps negotiations have genuinely taken this long.
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*the club are planning for a partnership, they don’t have one yet.

Coventry City Football Club and the University of Warwick are delighted to announce that they have commenced planning for a partnership
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shepardo01

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #111
Gynnsthetonic said:
wasp are losing £10m a year with CCFC possibly playing outside the City for the foreseeable future, these substantial losses just cant carry on and can see the only way out for wasp is to fall into liquidation.
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What does liquidation look like in the Rugby World?
Would they have to reform in the 8th division or would they get a free pass to remain in the Premiership??
What would administration do to them??
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #112
shmmeee said:
Give up on chasing justice on the Ricoh, swallow your pride, and rent there. Thems the choices.



*the club are planning for a partnership, they don’t have one yet.
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We Don’t want rent mate the stadium was built for us with Coventry tax payers money them slags sold it under value to wasps fuck rent it’s wrong on all levels in fully behind Joy & SISU on this one mate we need to own our own ground it’s that simple.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #113
cc84cov said:
We Don’t want rent mate the stadium was built for us with Coventry tax payers money them slags sold it under value to wasps fuck rent it’s wrong on all levels in fully behind Joy & SISU on this one mate we need to own our own ground it’s that simple.
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You asked what the alternative is. That’s fair enough if that’s your take. Personally don’t agree but what we think matters little TBH.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #114
shmmeee said:
Give up on chasing justice on the Ricoh, swallow your pride, and rent there. Thems the choices.
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It can't be dropped......
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #115
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Problem with this strategy is that stadiums don't get built over night. Even if the stadium plans do come to fruition and all is rosey we're still looking at 4-5 years playing outside of Cov in front of tiny crowds, paying a ton in rent to Blues or whoever else will have us. Might end up meaning we have to settle for being a Champ-League One yo-yo club or worse.
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but does that still stand now that Wasps have seemingly closed the door on any further negotiations... if that’s the case then turn all energies into the partnership & building something, cut 5 years to 3 maybe. I couldn’t care less about the fucking roads & congestion at this stage.
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #116
shepardo01 said:
What does liquidation look like in the Rugby World?
Would they have to reform in the 8th division or would they get a free pass to remain in the Premiership??
What would administration do to them??
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Become part time and join national league 1, isnt there already a London Wasps though that reformed and play in the regional leagues.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #117
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I don't know tbh, it's all a big mess. I just hope fans can be patient if we do end up banished from the city for a while building a new stadium. It's taken a long time and a lot of effort to get the club back moving in a positive direction.
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #118
Nick said:
It can't be dropped......
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That’s not what’s being asked. It’s not chasing any more, putting aside the state aid complaint. At least that’s what was said last year and were told it’s the same this year. Theproblem with the request according to the club is it’s “restricting basic legal rights” not that it’s impossible.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #119
shmmeee said:
That’s not what’s being asked. It’s not chasing any more, putting aside the state aid complaint. At least that’s what was said last year and were told it’s the same this year. Theproblem with the request according to the club is it’s “restricting basic legal rights” not that it’s impossible.
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And the indemnity..
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #120
Ring Of Steel said:
but does that still stand now that Wasps have seemingly closed the door on any further negotiations... if that’s the case then turn all energies into the partnership & building something, cut 5 years to 3 maybe. I couldn’t care less about the fucking roads & congestion at this stage.
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WDC won't giving planning permission for it to be built before the link road and VLR are in place.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #121
Nick said:
And the indemnity..
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Which we don’t know the details of and may or may not exist depending on who you ask.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #122
shmmeee said:
Which we don’t know the details of and may or may not exist depending on who you ask.
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The local media made it obvious last year because they were shit scared of it discussing it, time will tell this year.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #123
ccfcway said:
7 years and counting. not sure whats changed ?
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Yeah, I think that's the point he's making mate, that tangible progress needs to be delivered.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #124
David O'Day said:
WDC won't giving planning permission for it to be built before the link road and VLR are in place.
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Has that been stated as fact somewhere or is it just summation?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #125
mark82 said:
Has that been stated as fact somewhere or is it just summation?
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It's obvious as they would not allow a stadium to be built without adequate transportation links and the transport links at the WU site are the link road and VLR.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #126
David O'Day said:
It's obvious as they would not allow a stadium to be built without adequate transportation links and the transport links at the WU site are the link road and VLR.
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Would it already have been sorted hence the joint statement that they made ?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #127
cc84cov said:
Would it already have been sorted hence the joint statement that they made ?
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As has been stated the genius of the WU site is the transport links have already been approved by CCC.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #128
David O'Day said:
As has been stated the genius of the WU site is the transport links have already been approved by CCC.
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Which is what has shit them up.
 

Peter Billing

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #129
Nick said:
Again, it is very relevant that Wasps were involved with Hoffman and the council have previous.
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Yes thought this ever since Wasps went after the academy site. That was backed by the Council as well. They know we make fuck all from the stadium and the academy was our lifeline at the time. All about pressure. Bet they never banked on locking us out and us winning the league.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #130
I would fucking love it if sisu won the EC complaint and sued the council and wasps to the bone to pay for the new stadium.
 
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Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #131
This an interesting statement. I said on the other thread about the timing of the Warwick Uni deal and how that would upset WASP. Sems that is the case. WASP are not in great health and financial difficulty coming down the track. It's why I could only see it being sensible for a deal to be concluded. But SISU have once again pulled the rug from under negotiations now they have a genuine plan in place with Warwick Uni. It won't involve CCC other than already approved road links, so in theory if they now see staying away will weaken WASP, and with EFL backing for St.Andrews SISU give themselves a fairly strong position if they can sell it to the fans. The EU result may result in nothing, but potentially be catastrophic for CCC and ultimately WASP. SISU would not have pulled the plug had the Warwick deal not been in place. This is why WASP mention it. It does sound like SISU have siezed the moment and initiative. I just hope they are right in their assement this time. Yes raising capital to build a stdium can be done but I'm sensing the vultures are circling around the Ricoh and still SISU's first choice end game.
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #132
Possibly a naive question, but by saying no indemnity was required, have Wasps broken the NDA?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #133
Really gutted about this. We’ve always took SISU at their word on this indemnity.

there’s no reason to use semantics on it this time. its the first time Wasps acknowledged it. Dress it up as legals or complaint -it’s the same fucking thing.

stop this stupid NDA shit and get around the table. One fucker is lying, and we need to know who it is. SISU have had 13 years head start on that one!
 
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kg82

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #134
Bullshit. Wasps PR going into overdrive, probably helped by the council. Negative outcome last time, trying to drive up public support this time to help with a dying business.
 

higgs

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #135
The wasp will die eventually there are only so many stings in the tail

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 
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tisza

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #136
JulianDarbyFTW said:
Possibly a naive question, but by saying no indemnity was required, have Wasps broken the NDA?
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The fact there are NDAs means there's things that potentially embarrassing or worse out there. The fact we refer to them frequently suggests it's not so much on the football club's side.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #137
I saw a tweet last night which in the mayhem I never book marked and I can't find it now but it was suggesting that some of the hierarchy at Warwick uni have had their own major fall out with the council, anyone heard anything?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #138
JulianDarbyFTW said:
Possibly a naive question, but by saying no indemnity was required, have Wasps broken the NDA?
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I was told by wasps that even mentioning the nda was breaking the nda
 
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #139
chiefdave said:
This is the relevant bit. About as clear as they can make it without breaking the NDA. You don't have to be a genius to work out what they are getting at.
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The same issues could relate to Food and Drink etc.. Why assume the indemnity is the stumbling block ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #140
 
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