Not something I have ever thought. But I took my kids to games where trouble has happened a couple of times nearby. I did feel disempowered to protect them somewhat. Me v a dozen, I didn't fancy my chances much tbhWhich was the last one you thought "If I had my kid here they would be intimidated / scared?".
Not something I have ever thought. But I took my kids to games where trouble has happened a couple of times nearby. I did feel disempowered to protect them somewhat. Me v a dozen, I didn't fancy my chances much tbh
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I feel like Bazza should go to a normal wasps game where 8,000 sit there bored in the quiet watching them lose before he forms his opinion on every game they’ve ever had.
Ha - brilliant - that's cheered me right up (and saved me the price of a ticket).All very well but I live down south, I don't go & watch Wasps...I support Bath
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Quite funny how some still don't know about the drinking laws in football.
At the last home game it was that cold I queued up for a Boveril at about 2.50.
The guy at the front of the queue was called over by his missus.
"You can't take a pint into the ground" she told him he huffed and puffed said "what sort of ground is this" then stormed off looked around in astonishment when a couple of us started laughing.
I have never experienced any trouble directly at the Ricoh at the football, seen the odd scuffle outside but 8 just stay away from it. It’s disappointing that people automatically think all football fans are thugs and pissheads (okay the latter might be true) but always just had a laugh with friends or family when we go up.
I am sure bazza enjoyed it yesterday because his team won, nowt wrong with that but I don’t think any of the home ‘fans’ care that wasps lost apart from the London based lot. It is clear that that crowd are resenting the Coventry tourists now and is a split fan base.
You are failing to address the issue though that attendances are declining sharply YOY which shows the strategy isn’t working....
When was this started? There's definitely been away fans parking in A and B this season so much be a new thing.1. They designate car parks for separate fans for a reason as so eloquently put by the attendant in the one I used
That's nothing to do with our fans, it was brought in nationwide in 1985 and there has been requests made to the government for it to be changed as it is outdated and not supported evidentially.2. There are also signs up prohibiting alcohol from the actual seating area for football...but it is allowed for Rugby
We park in P1 (CTK) and there are always away fans thereWhen was this started? There's definitely been away fans parking in A and B this season so much be a new thing.
That's nothing to do with our fans, it was brought in nationwide in 1985 and there has been requests made to the government for it to be changed as it is outdated and not supported evidentially.
'On the Lash: Revisiting the Effectiveness of Alcohol Controls at Football Matches
You'll have seen the Coventry rugby team show them how to win trophies thenI'm a rugby people TGP. I've followed Cov (and CCFC) since the mid sixties.
Do you just have a piss where you stand?I'm a rugby people TGP. I've followed Cov (and CCFC) since the mid sixties.
For me, it's ALL about the sport. Never about the occasion; and that's partly why I could never go to a franchise match. Perish the thought.
I agree about being disturbed by the drinkers on their interminable trips to the bog though, so I stand instead. Another advantage of supporting Cov.
Merry Christmas all (except the franchise tourists of course).
Yes. Billy Connelly explained the procedure very well.Do you just have a piss where you stand?
The people I know who have been to Wasps have never been bothered about Rugby, if you ask them about it they don't mention the game, who they played, who played well, who was rubbish and what the score was. It was that they can get a free ticket and get pissed up at their seat and see Santa or something.
The issue with that is to keep those people going they need to continue with the free tickets as they wouldn't go if they had to pay for the tickets. The lifelong fans will still be going, win or lose and paying for their tickets whether there's fireworks or not.
On the Community stuff I haven't said I was unimpressed with City's efforts. Not experienced them so point taken.Which ones?
After the examples have been given about CCFC doing some of the things that Wasps do that you were impressed with you are now just resorting to the football violence stuff. You aren't getting the answers you wanted when asking about people taking their kids and your answer to "will people take their kids when there isnt a funfair or have to pay" is to go on about twats at football that we all know exist and signs you discovered at the Ricoh yesterday.
Yeah because that doesn't look a bit desperate. Try to tone it down you are going to end up embarrassing yourself.A belated Happy New Year everyone. Been VERY busy the last couple of weeks but will try to respond in turn, back-tracking the posts
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Ok...hope you have a shit year - feel better?Yeah because that doesn't look a bit desperate. Try to tone it down you are going to end up embarrassing yourself.
I agree with a lot of what you say. I haven’t been to many rugby games, a few Coventry matches and an international a couple of years ago in Cardiff between Wales and Ireland. The latter was an “event” type fixture where people went along to have a drink and to post on social media that they had been there. I had my green hat and scarf on and no one batted an eyelid. Welsh and Irish mixed around the stadium. Ironically there was pockets of trouble in the stadium with some people ignoring the very polite stewards and in the end being carted off. Outside the stadium there was some trouble too. However, had that been a football match segregation would definitely have been required to prevent mayhem. I was there to see the game and to see Ireland win. Lots of others would have that same commitment. Lots, however did not seem that bothered. That is a big change from a football crowd where most are passionately committed to one side or another.On the Community stuff I haven't said I was unimpressed with City's efforts. Not experienced them so point taken.
On the general 'family' experience though...my kids are grown up now so it doesn't apply in recent times. However, when considering how parents with younger kids might well feel ablut taking kids into an experience with a hostile atmosphere such as Walsall away, Sunderland at home - compare that to ANY rugby game I have attended. I would prefer to attend rugby with young kids...something I never did when they were young.
By contrast, I went to the Southend game & but for a few rants of abuse arpund & about in the stadium at events on the pitch the atmosphere was fine
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Absolutely encompasses all the various points I was trying to make in essence. At the same time perhaps avoiding what on my part was becoming a defensive stance.I agree with a lot of what you say. I haven’t been to many rugby games, a few Coventry matches and an international a couple of years ago in Cardiff between Wales and Ireland. The latter was an “event” type fixture where people went along to have a drink and to post on social media that they had been there. I had my green hat and scarf on and no one batted an eyelid. Welsh and Irish mixed around the stadium. Ironically there was pockets of trouble in the stadium with some people ignoring the very polite stewards and in the end being carted off. Outside the stadium there was some trouble too. However, had that been a football match segregation would definitely have been required to prevent mayhem. I was there to see the game and to see Ireland win. Lots of others would have that same commitment. Lots, however did not seem that bothered. That is a big change from a football crowd where most are passionately committed to one side or another.
I think the point you were trying to make (sorry if this isn’t true) is that the nature of a football crowd will alienate some people and will stop some from coming with their families. I have been hooked on football for over fifty years. I went with my dad (sometimes my mum and sister too). I took my wife (she hates it) and I have taken all of my four sons, two of whom loved it and go with me now, two who just didn’t get it. I have gone and taken my family despite the behaviour of some fellow ‘fans’. Some people who go are the dregs of society. It seem that entering a stadium means that they can behave in an appalling anti social way and because it is the football, that makes it okay. This is much, much worse at away games. At these matches there is often no way of avoiding standing next to anti - social cretins as our games are frequently sold out. I feel really sorry for disabled or elderly people who want to sit at a game. At away matches they have no chance as fellow” fans” will stand in the first row meaning everyone has to stand. Asking them to sit down is asking for a shower of abuse. At Scunthorpe on Saturday there was a group of fifty something blokes who spent the afternoon abusing both sets of players and all of the officials at full volume. They didn’t care who heard, who was there, families, kids, the elderly, it didn’t matter. This was the football and they could do and say what they wanted.
Now some will come on and say, you know what it is like, if you don’t like it, don’t go. I love my team, I love my football. I want us to win as much as anyone, as much as any of the people I have described. My commitment to our club doesn’t make me feel I have to abuse others or behave like a complete cretin. Those who say, “what do you expect, it is football” have to accept that many, many people will not go to football because of the way that some behave. How many people, how many families don’t go because they don’t want to sit through 90 plus minutes of mindless aggression? That is costing our club as it does every other club in the country. I like the ‘edge’ that football has, I like the passion, the desire for your team to win. It doesn’t have to go hand in hand with all of the other stuff.
When was this started? There's definitely been away fans parking in A and B this season so much be a new thing.
That's nothing to do with our fans, it was brought in nationwide in 1985 and there has been requests made to the government for it to be changed as it is outdated and not supported evidentially.
'On the Lash: Revisiting the Effectiveness of Alcohol Controls at Football Matches
To put that in to perspective 10th in the national table equates to 37 arrests out of a total attendance of 212,863 at home plus whatever we took away, which given how many we took to Wembley would put us well past 250K. And remember that figure isn't just people causing trouble, it includes pitch incursions, a favourite among our fans the last couple of seasons. While its annoying and stupid its not really what you'd class as crowd trouble.Nothing to do with our fans - except why does football still attract that element that have to have too much pop & cause trouble. We have that element just like all clubs - there are many reports of poor behaviour at our games on this forum. CCFC 10th in the national table 2017-18 for arrests as well.
I think I am right in saying you are referring to Rugby League matches in terms of the kind of trouble seen at football. There have been the odd games where things have kicked off & been reported. Otherwise you are probably talking about largely Welsh internationals, plus one where Eddie Jones was verbally abused by some coming back from Edinburgh, which are unlikely to draw many families as it is so hard to get tickets for given the prices & availability.To put that in to perspective 10th in the national table equates to 37 arrests out of a total attendance of 212,863 at home plus whatever we took away, which given how many we took to Wembley would put us well past 250K. And remember that figure isn't just people causing trouble, it includes pitch incursions, a favourite among our fans the last couple of seasons. While its annoying and stupid its not really what you'd class as crowd trouble.
Of course we can't compare with rugby as similar figures aren't produced but you don't have to look very far to see BTP stating they have more issues with rugby fans than football fans these days.
I think I am right in saying you are referring to Rugby League matches in terms of the kind of trouble seen at football. There have been the odd games where things have kicked off & been reported. Otherwise you are probably talking about largely Welsh internationals, plus one where Eddie Jones was verbally abused by some coming back from Edinburgh, which are unlikely to draw many families as it is so hard to get tickets for given the prices & availability.
In Union this poor behaviour doesn't turn to violence as a rule. But yes it is bad behaviour. The point is that I believe the hostile atmosphere surrounding football games puts many families off going.
And compare the two below...
Calls to crackdown on drunk fans at rugby match days ...not considered day to day rugby fans
Incidents involving Sky Blues fans and Transport Police ...a much more widespread problem - day to day football fans
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Thousands and thousands more, which completely invalidates his point so he'll ignore it.How many families go to watch football every week compared to rugby?
I think I am right in saying you are referring to Rugby League matches in terms of the kind of trouble seen at football. There have been the odd games where things have kicked off & been reported. Otherwise you are probably talking about largely Welsh internationals, plus one where Eddie Jones was verbally abused by some coming back from Edinburgh, which are unlikely to draw many families as it is so hard to get tickets for given the prices & availability.
In Union this poor behaviour doesn't turn to violence as a rule. But yes it is bad behaviour. The point is that I believe the hostile atmosphere surrounding football games puts many families off going.
And compare the two below...
Calls to crackdown on drunk fans at rugby match days ...not considered day to day rugby fans
Incidents involving Sky Blues fans and Transport Police ...a much more widespread problem - day to day football fans
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It's looking more and more desperate. The same as he completely ignores people who take their kids every week and doesn't have a clue about particular games referred to.Thousands and thousands more, which completely invalidates his point so he'll ignore it.
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