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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (7 Viewers)

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Balli001

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,036
SBT said:
Someone with a track record of ambition and major investment would be nice?
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Yes because the football world is teaming with those isn't it? When you find them let me know until then I'll let you fester in your delusional world
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,037
SBT said:
Someone with a track record of ambition and major investment would be nice?
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Yeah somebody who is going to throw shit loads in and never want it back. Where are they?
 

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,038
Skyblueweeman said:
Ha ha - fair enough. Didn't pick up on the 2nd point.

To be fair, clubs normally are happy to stay within a 30 mins drive of the ground they're playing (taking into account traffic/time of travel etc). That opens up a wider area than Walsall itself. Thankfully.
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You mean like Coventry?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,039
chiefdave said:
He also tweeted yesterday that 'I don’t talk business on twitter' so not likely to be related to anything to do with a potential takeover or the stadium situation.
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he's after attention
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,040
SBT said:
Someone with a track record of ambition and major investment would be nice?
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Pretty sure the Saudis and Abu Dhabi already own English clubs
 

duffer

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,041
I'm not keen on Ashley either in truth, a pretty shabby man in many ways, but I guess I'd prefer him to SISU (assuming he's not out to bleed the club dry). Either way, I guess the administrator won't be needing my tenner now.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,042
Balli001 said:
Yes because the football world is teaming with those isn't it? When you find them let me know until then I'll let you fester in your delusional world
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Nick said:
Yeah somebody who is going to throw shit loads in and never want it back. Where are they?
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Yes, unfortunately it’s unheard of in the modern game.
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,043
SBT said:
Someone with a track record of ambition and major investment would be nice?
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or just any ambition at all
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,044
SBT said:
Yes, unfortunately it’s unheard of in the modern game.
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And that is the issue with football fans and probably why I asked for actual reasons other than "Ask Newcastle Fans".
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,045
Sky Blue Pete said:
Shouldn’t have got to the point really where ccfc felt they may have to move, duggins was moving heaven and earth to ensure we could play
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Are you sure you were talking about the right Duggins?
George ‘anti-SISU’ Duggins is the Labour leader on the CCC, just for clarification!
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,046
Balli001 said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with him in my opinion. Newcastle fans were the reason he is made out to be a bad owner despite them being financially stable and almost exclusively in the Premier league
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Exactly. The goon army moaned every year because he wasnt spunking away £200 million every season
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,047
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Would be interested to know what would cost 13 million to repair, care to hazard a guess? Thats a lot of investment.
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Where is this repair work needed, if it’s structural surely a safety certificate can’t be issued?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,048
The Philosopher said:
To be fair to you you’ve been quite accurate with your predictions to date, ignore the gibbons on here who try to knock you.

I’m going to now check you syntax and work out who you are
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Ben Wilson
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,049
Nick said:
And that is the issue with football fans and probably why I asked for actual reasons other than "Ask Newcastle Fans".
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Was that what you asked for?

In any case, as mad as the Geordies may be, I don’t think anyone should be ignoring their concerns completely. Financial stability 15 years from now with a couple of relegations to League One in between might be OK, but I’m not sure it’s worth tracking his helicopter over.
 

Perryccfc

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,050
eastwoodsdustman said:
Exactly. The goon army moaned every year because he wasnt spunking away £200 million every season
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Give it 12 months and the helmets on Twitter will be doing the same
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,051
Reality of Ashley is he has put money into Newcastle. Yes they did bit of a yo-yo between Championship and Prem, but he left the club in the hands of some of the wealthiest people in the world.

If Ashley got the stadium and then the club, I suspect his end game would be similar. Get CBS and CCFC married and get to the Prem and try and establish. Once that happens, sell off to the highest bidder.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,052
duffer said:
I'm not keen on Ashley either in truth, a pretty shabby man in many ways, but I guess I'd prefer him to SISU (assuming he's not out to bleed the club dry). Either way, I guess the administrator won't be needing my tenner now.
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It is a bit whether you prefer dog shit or cat shit on your toast in the morning
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,053
robbiethemole said:
Where is this repair work needed, if it’s structural surely a safety certificate can’t be issued?
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At least the seats don’t need changing back to sky blue as the richest rugby club in the world never got round to changing them.
 
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jordan210

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,054
Im pretty sure the last NOI was filed 10 days around just before 2. So we might hear something soon
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,055
eastwoodsdustman said:
Exactly. The goon army moaned every year because he wasnt spunking away £200 million every season
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And even then they bought Joelinton for 40mil

Absurd self entitlement and ignorance from Newcastle fans to think they had it bad enough to warrant protests
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,056
Starting to think that it’s still going to be weeks and weeks before we’re any clearer on what’s actually happening.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,057
Nick said:
What is actually that bad about him?
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Think the Geordies weren't satisfied being in the Prem, they wanted him to spend billions to get them the title.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,058
Just read on Twitter that businesses that work at the CBS who were told to work from home are back at the CBS today.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,059
SBT said:
Was that what you asked for?

In any case, as mad as the Geordies may be, I don’t think anyone should be ignoring their concerns completely. Financial stability 15 years from now with a couple of relegations to League One in between might be OK, but I’m not sure it’s worth tracking his helicopter over.
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Newcastle fans were unhappy that he didn't want to put in the kind of money needed to get them into the upper echelons of the top flight. I mean I say that, he sanctioned them spending £40 million on Joelinton and the net spend was well over £100 million in his time there.

I don't think his plan assuming he wants the club as well as the stadium would be to continue festering between the second and third tier.
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,060
edgy said:
That's just a coincidence. Nowhere to land near the CBS. Ashley's cavalcade currently hurtling up the A444.
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Heard he's having a few pints with Joy in a London boozer.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,061
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Reality of Ashley is he has put money into Newcastle. Yes they did bit of a yo-yo between Championship and Prem, but he left the club in the hands of some of the wealthiest people in the world.

If Ashley got the stadium and then the club, I suspect his end game would be similar. Get CBS and CCFC married and get to the Prem and try and establish. Once that happens, sell off to the highest bidder.
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Same model that SISU had but to be fair to
MA he’s less likely to switch tap off as quick as SISU did.

What would SISU take?

£40m (£20m players the rest goodwill / Ryton etc)

What’s the Arena going to cost? £40m with some other liabilities added?

Is the whole CCFC plus Arena package worth £100m? Not sure it us.

As an aside () Derby stadium sold for £18m plus £3-4m to admin. Similar ground to CBS but without conference facilities. Might value CBS at £35m but it’s those repair conditions.
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,062
Sbarcher said:
Heard he's having a few pints with Joy in a London boozer.
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Hope she brought a bucket
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,063
edgy said:
That's just a coincidence. Nowhere to land near the CBS. Ashley's cavalcade currently hurtling up the A444.
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Im sure when he builds his new HQ at the triangle, he’ll have a helipad installed then it’s 10 minute hop to his new ground/club.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,064
The Philosopher said:
Same model that SISU had but to be fair to
MA he’s less likely to switch tap off as quick as SISU did.

What would SISU take?

£40m (£20k players the rest goodwill / Ryton etc)

What’s the Arena going to cost? £40m with some other liabilities added?

Is the whole CCFC plus Arena package worth £100m? Not sure it us.

As an aside () Derby stadium sold for £18m plus £3-4m to admin. Similar ground to CBS but without conference facilities. Might value CBS at £35m but it’s those repair conditions.
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Think the council should be chipping in for some of those repairs
 
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robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,065
The Philosopher said:
Same model that SISU had but to be fair to
MA he’s less likely to switch tap off as quick as SISU did.

What would SISU take?

£40m (£20k players the rest goodwill / Ryton etc)

What’s the Arena going to cost? £40m with some other liabilities added?

Is the whole CCFC plus Arena package worth £100m? Not sure it us.

As an aside () Derby stadium sold for £18m plus £3-4m to admin. Similar ground to CBS but without conference facilities. Might value CBS at £35m but it’s those repair conditions.
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I don’t think this admin will last for over 6 months like Derby’s so costs should be considerably lower
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,066
riyadhskyblue said:
You mean like Coventry?
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They wouldn't actually use a hotel for a game at Walsall.
 

Winny the Bish

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,067
Nick said:
What is actually that bad about him?
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Where do we start:
- Hired his mates for top jobs at the club
- Club was subject of a 4-year HMRC investigation
- Lied about the money managers had available to spend
- Lied to fans: “The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United.”
- Completely neglected SJP
- Raised ticket prices by 20%
- Doubled club debt
- Newcastle were the 13th most valuable club in football when he took over, ahead of Spurs and Dortmund.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,068
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think the council should be chipping in for some of those repairs
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Let’s phrase it differently and see if you still think the same:

“Coventry Council Tax payers should contribute for repairs on something that a big business was responsible for. Either taxpayers pay more or local services must get cut”

People often forget where the Council get their money.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,069
skyblue93 said:
Where do we start:
- Hired his mates for top jobs at the club
- Club was subject of a 4-year HMRC investigation
- Lied about the money managers had available to spend
- Lied to fans: “The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United.”
- Completely neglected SJP
- Raised ticket prices by 20%
- Doubled club debt
- Newcastle were the 13th most valuable club in football when he took over, ahead of Spurs and Dortmund.
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Yes, but apart from all that??
 
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AOM

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  • Oct 31, 2022
  • #7,070
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Reality of Ashley is he has put money into Newcastle. Yes they did bit of a yo-yo between Championship and Prem, but he left the club in the hands of some of the wealthiest people in the world.

If Ashley got the stadium and then the club, I suspect his end game would be similar. Get CBS and CCFC married and get to the Prem and try and establish. Once that happens, sell off to the highest bidder.
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