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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (3 Viewers)

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Robinshio

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,481
Nick said:
Anybody pointing it out was jealous or a city fan.
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our Wasps downward spiral thread was 4 years old yesterday, so it has been clear over that time where it was all going to end, and probably before
 
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gazza

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,482
what’s happening about wasps being relegated? Isn’t it supposed to be automatic if they go into admin?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,483
Robinshio said:
our Wasps downward spiral thread was 4 years old yesterday, so it has been clear over that time where it was all going to end, and probably before
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Can’t be - I thought Vaughan said they were earning shit loads and we were just jealous and should be using our energy to get rid of SISU whilst being good tenants and pay our rent
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,484
gazza said:
what’s happening about wasps being relegated? Isn’t it supposed to be automatic if they go into admin?
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Isn't 10 days from admin, so next week sometime.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,485
Any rescue package for ACL or is it admin for them next Friday?
 
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gazza

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,486
Gynnsthetonic said:
Isn't 10 days from admin, so next week sometime.
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is that what happened with worcester?
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,487
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4189147


official documents are slowly showing
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,488
gazza said:
is that what happened with worcester?
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Yes I think so
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,489
Gynnsthetonic said:
Any rescue package for ACL or is it admin for them next Friday?
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“How much for the stadium mr administrator?”

“Just £35m please but it has £15-£20m of structural repairs needed as well”

Potential buyers reaction….

 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,490
CCFC54321 said:
“How much for the stadium mr administrator?”

“Just £35m please but it has £15-£20m of structural repairs needed as well?”

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Straight on the phone to the council any chance you can pay for these little repairs.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,491
Gynnsthetonic said:
Isn't 10 days from admin, so next week sometime.
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I think relegation will be confirmed when they fail to fulfill 2 home prem games, next one due 30 October.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,492
Genuine question here... if the ground requires an estimated £15-£20m of repairs doing to it... where are those repairs needed?

I'm being deliberately dramatic here.... is the ground 100% safe for 20,000 people? Now i'm pretty 99% sure the ground must have a safety certificate in place otherwise we would have a Birmingham city situation on our hands but where are these repairs needed? They cant be structural otherwise the ground wouldn't get a safety certificate?
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,493
Gynnsthetonic said:
Any rescue package for ACL or is it admin for them next Friday?
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Weirdly not been anything.

Id imagine anyone looking to buy would wait for Admin.
 
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gazza

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,494
Gynnsthetonic said:
Yes I think so
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sweet
 

slowpoke

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,495
Time to end this on going Wasp narrative they’re gone, dead, kaput. May get re-born later and do a bit of a come back but playing elsewhere, probably somewhere London way.
Now we should all be concentrating on how to get rid of sisu, they must go if they stay we are condemned to never going higher Sepalla does not want the Premiership, don’t think she that keen on the championship either.
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,496
jordan210 said:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4189147


official documents are slowly showing
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oooooh, that looks nice and official
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,497
CCFC54321 said:
Genuine question here... if the ground requires an estimated £15-£20m of repairs doing to it... where are those repairs needed?

I'm being deliberately dramatic here.... is the ground 100% safe for 20,000 people? Now i'm pretty 99% sure the ground must have a safety certificate in place otherwise we would have a Birmingham city situation on our hands but where are these repairs needed? They cant be structural otherwise the ground wouldn't get a safety certificate?
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A fucking good clean and a lick of paint wouldn't cost that much, would it??
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,498
robbiethemole said:
A fucking good clean and a lick of paint wouldn't cost that much, would it??
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It cost £5million to build a porch there. They said it was to bring it up to date as well, the area around the boxes is really tatty and it’s fairly obvious the insects haven’t spent a penny for a long time.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,499
CCFC54321 said:
Genuine question here... if the ground requires an estimated £15-£20m of repairs doing to it... where are those repairs needed?

I'm being deliberately dramatic here.... is the ground 100% safe for 20,000 people? Now i'm pretty 99% sure the ground must have a safety certificate in place otherwise we would have a Birmingham city situation on our hands but where are these repairs needed? They cant be structural otherwise the ground wouldn't get a safety certificate?
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its only 17 years old, Id be pretty fecked off if it has major issues.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,500
Terry Gibson's perm said:
It cost £5million to build a porch there. They said it was to bring it up to date as well, the area around the boxes is really tatty and it’s fairly obvious the insects haven’t spent a penny for a long time.
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I wouldn't know about the box area, being only a standard ST holder, not an exclusive platinum priority one. hahahahahha
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,501
Alkhen said:
its only 17 years old, Id be pretty fecked off if it has major issues.
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Is it still within it's warranty? maybe CBS have got it covered on their buildings insurance policy
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,502
CCFC54321 said:
Genuine question here... if the ground requires an estimated £15-£20m of repairs doing to it... where are those repairs needed?

I'm being deliberately dramatic here.... is the ground 100% safe for 20,000 people? Now i'm pretty 99% sure the ground must have a safety certificate in place otherwise we would have a Birmingham city situation on our hands but where are these repairs needed? They cant be structural otherwise the ground wouldn't get a safety certificate?
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Who pays for these repairs too?
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,503
CCFC54321 said:
Genuine question here... if the ground requires an estimated £15-£20m of repairs doing to it... where are those repairs needed?

I'm being deliberately dramatic here.... is the ground 100% safe for 20,000 people? Now i'm pretty 99% sure the ground must have a safety certificate in place otherwise we would have a Birmingham city situation on our hands but where are these repairs needed? They cant be structural otherwise the ground wouldn't get a safety certificate?
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Another genuine question and I'm going to sound naive or thick but as leaseholders are they responsible for the repairs or should CCC as the freeholder be doing this? Apologies but I'm confused between owner, lease holder, tennant, CCC, Wasps, ACL, ACL11,000,000,000 etc.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,504
robbiethemole said:
I wouldn't know about the box area, being only a standard ST holder, not an exclusive platinum priority one. hahahahahha
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“Standard ST wanker”
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,505
RegTheDonk said:
Another genuine question and I'm going to sound naive or thick but as leaseholders are they responsible for the repairs or should CCC as the freeholder be doing this? Apologies but I'm confused between owner, lease holder, tennant, CCC, Wasps, ACL, ACL11,000,000,000 etc.
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Normally, tenants aren't allowed to do anything to a property without the ok from the freeholder, so who would that be then?.......................
Oh fuck!
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,506
olderskyblue said:
“Standard ST wanker”
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I know my place in the hierarchy
 
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joemercersaces

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,507
Terry Gibson's perm said:
It cost £5million to build a porch there. They said it was to bring it up to date as well, the area around the boxes is really tatty and it’s fairly obvious the insects haven’t spent a penny for a long time.
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Wasn’t the £5 million for the Leamington Supporters Club’s VIP entrance upgrade?
 
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slowpoke

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,508
robbiethemole said:
Normally, tenants aren't allowed to do anything to a property without the ok from the freeholder, so who would that be then?.......................
Oh fuck!
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Responsibility for any ground repairs is the landlord.
 

Sbarcher

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,509
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Straight on the phone to the council any chance you can pay for these little repairs.
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Wouldn't it be the case that Wasps/ACL were responsible for general/minor maintenance as the leasee, and CCC responsible for major structurals as the freeholder in the same way as a domenstic situation?
Edit - Sorry, just seen the above making the same point.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,510
great minds think alike sb
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,511
CCFC54321 said:
Genuine question here... if the ground requires an estimated £15-£20m of repairs doing to it... where are those repairs needed?

I'm being deliberately dramatic here.... is the ground 100% safe for 20,000 people? Now i'm pretty 99% sure the ground must have a safety certificate in place otherwise we would have a Birmingham city situation on our hands but where are these repairs needed? They cant be structural otherwise the ground wouldn't get a safety certificate?
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There were rumours quite a while back that cracks had been appearing and structural engineers called in. Was denied at first by Wasps who then changed the story to they've been checked and they're fine but given their relationship with the truth who knows.

But £20m in repairs for a stadium that's still relatively new would be very poor even if there has been virtually no maintenance since day one.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,512
Sbarcher said:
Wouldn't it be the case that Wasps/ACL were responsible for general/minor maintenance as the leasee, and CCC responsible for major structurals as the freeholder in the same way as a domenstic situation?
Edit - Sorry, just seen the above making the same point.
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I'd suggest it would depend on the type of contract. To put it in housing terms It could be because the CBS is "detached" from any other common spaces that would have shared upkeep the building was Wasps responsibility.
 

Mcbean

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,513
Then the value has just been reduced by 20 m !
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,514
This is boring. Anyone got any rumours?

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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slowpoke

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  • Oct 21, 2022
  • #4,515
chiefdave said:
There were rumours quite a while back that cracks had been appearing and structural engineers called in. Was denied at first by Wasps who then changed the story to they've been checked and they're fine but given their relationship with the truth who knows.

But £20m in repairs for a stadium that's still relatively new would be very poor even if there has been virtually no maintenance since day one.
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Where has the twenty million estimate come from ?
 
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