RoboCCFC90
Well-Known Member
I almost spat my coffee when I saw that, please behave!
Fisher might not like coffee he might like something else, of course this an opinion, Why am I not entitled to an opinion now?????
What does Fisher have to do with that glorious Sussex resort, might I ask?
They don't seem open to offers which is outright baffling given the extreme lengths they're going to in order to bust a stadium management company. If somebody were to offer a sizeable percentage of their total investment with more to follow as the club finds it feet, would they really reject it?
I almost spat my coffee when I saw that, please behave!
Fisher might not like coffee he might like something else, of course this an opinion, Why am I not entitled to an opinion now?????:thinking about::thinking about:
Funny because the truth is, that's 100% speculation; Neither side can table offers until ACL accept debt recovery proposal by the administrator.
As far as I can see, they are showing a strong reluctance to do that. Yet somehow people can't escape this impression that SISU are the people to blame for the lack of progress.
If you people think SISU really plan on building a new stadium, or having us play at Northampton for three years, then I think you need to step away from the situation and reexamine it from distance.
Funny because the truth is, that's 100% speculation; Neither side can table offers until ACL accept debt recovery proposal by the administrator.
As far as I can see, they are showing a strong reluctance to do that. Yet somehow people can't escape this impression that SISU are the people to blame for the lack of progress.
If you people think SISU really plan on building a new stadium, or having us play at Northampton for three years, then I think you need to step away from the situation and reexamine it from distance.
I'm talking long before the administration process got under way-it must have become apparent to them way before now that this situation was on a downhill slope which would only deteriorate. Why persist with it, throwing more money at it in the process, when you could be looking for people to take it off your hands and get your money back?
Thirdly, from what I read acl were willing to offer a substantially reduced rent that is apparently the same as what Walsall pay (for twice the stadium and the capacity that if things were going well on the pitch could have generated significantly more income for the club...through ticket sales).
I'm talking long before the administration process got under way-it must have become apparent to them way before now that this situation was on a downhill slope which would only deteriorate. Why persist with it, throwing more money at it in the process, when you could be looking for people to take it off your hands and get your money back?
Playing hardball doesn't work in every situation in life.
Funny because the truth is, that's 100% speculation; Neither side can table offers until ACL accept debt recovery proposal by the administrator.
As far as I can see, they are showing a strong reluctance to do that. Yet somehow people can't escape this impression that SISU are the people to blame for the lack of progress.
If you people think SISU really plan on building a new stadium, or having us play at Northampton for three years, then I think you need to step away from the situation and reexamine it from distance.
That's simple; In for a penny, in for a pound. Plus, if you remember, they INVITED offers in recent years from the so called 'interested parties' and no offers of any substance were tabled. Read back and you'll see what I mean.
When were offers invited?
Would you support Richardson if he was behind a move to northampton and deliberately trying to distress acl?
When Hoffman/Elliot alluded to them having 'investors' lined up, even Keys was involved in the anti-climatic speculation.
SISU, knowing this was another attempt to undermine them actually went on the record to say 'we will listen to any offers'. Nothing transpired.
I will find it later.
As I remember Hoffman did put in an offer of a nominal pound for the club and then tens of millions on various things including paying back some of SISU's money which Dulieu refused to entertain because it wasn't on the right paper. I think we should distinguish carefully between SISU themselves and the idiots they have hired to do their work, Dulieu and Igwe being the worst.
According to Mr Hoffman. 'Mr Dulieu said I think I can Get SISU to agree to this no problem, the deal is a good one'
He had it reaffirmed to keep all the names involved confidential. He then said he wanted assurances he would stay as chairman under the new owners. When he was told this was not possible. Within hours the names appeared in the sun. Deal over.
The point's been missed. SISU never rejected any credible offers - they invited them. Unfortunately the 'offers' fired were informal/impertinent and consequently progress was not made. Also it was intimated to that the stadium rent is not viable at this level.
Now you're going to use an article from a couple of years back to make more petulant arguments about present day CCFC. The simple point was, SISU invited offers.
If true then we all underestimated Kenny's propensity to ruin football clubs.
They always contain facts. Ask a question and ill factually answer it. Here's a fact. We were charged the highest rent in league one. Here is another fact we were charged the highest rent in the championship. Oh one more fact all other clubs with council owned stadiums have a FAR better deal than us
Sadly the other fact is supporters like you seem to get off on these facts without realising the damage they have done.
and yet TF has repeatedly said on Radio, in the press and at each of the fans forums............" the club is not for sale"
It's one thing to put out an empty statement and say 'we'll listen to offers'-it's another entirely to go and make the club officially up for sale and encourage bids. If they hadn't appointed the contents of a Fanta bottle to run the club maybe they would've had more success-who knows. They have made so many poor appointments at boardroom level that it really hasn't helped their cause.
you fail to mention a few other facts. It's a fact that ACL offered Sisu a greatly reduced rent and access to match day revenues. It is a fact that attendences have plummeted by the thousands since Sisu have taken over. It is a fact that Sisu at board room level have shown unbelievable contempt to the supporters. It is a fact that Sisu have zero ambition by wanting to build a stadium that is smaller than what Highfield Road was. It is a fact that Sisu tried to bankrupt another company and a charity to get their own way, therefore costing people their jobs. It is a fact that they allowed Ken Dellieu to sit in the dug out. It is a fact they left an incompetent manager in Andy Thorn in charge for so long. Other than my final fact how many times have you mentioned the others or have you conveniently forgotten about those facts?
All I said is they invited offers from the so called interested parties. It was never stated or even alluded to that the club was officially put on the market. Because it hasn't ever been, apart from in recent weeks by the administrator. Why do you move the goalposts when you are contradicted?
What have I said that clearly has not been read by you; i do not endorse SISU's historical mistakes, it is simply my belief/opinion that they are acting in the best interests of the club with the stadium business.
Please offer proof that 'ACL offered Sisu a greatly reduced rent and access to match day revenues' - I believe this to be speculation peddled by the CET and smoke/mirrors thrown up by ACL. I will apologise and retract this if you can prove otherwise.
and yet TF has repeatedly said on Radio, in the press and at each of the fans forums............" the club is not for sale"
All I said is they invited offers from the so called interested parties. It was never stated or even alluded to that the club was officially put on the market. Because it hasn't ever been, apart from in recent weeks by the administrator. Why do you move the goalposts when you are contradicted?
They shook hands on a deal, ACL officially stated this did they not? ACL don't have a track record of constantly lying to the media and to supporters. Tim Fisher's bullshit line of 'I thought it was a goodbye gesture' has obviously been swallowed hook, line and sinker by the likes of you. How can you trust a company that have made SO MANY mistakes in the past with the future of our club? It truly does baffle me.
So ultimately you have no proof. You are just taking ACL's word. Just like I am taking SISU's word but backing it up with this logic; Where would the sense be in moving home if they really were offered such an attractive deal?
Because it doesn't give them the Ricoh for nothing.
All I said is they invited offers from the so called interested parties. It was never stated or even alluded to that the club was officially put on the market. Because it hasn't ever been, apart from in recent weeks by the administrator. Why do you move the goalposts when you are contradicted?
What have I said that clearly has not been read by you; i do not endorse SISU's historical mistakes, it is simply my belief/opinion that they are acting in the best interests of the club with the stadium business.
Please offer proof that 'ACL offered Sisu a greatly reduced rent and access to match day revenues' - I believe this to be speculation peddled by the CET and smoke/mirrors thrown up by ACL. I will apologise and retract this if you can prove otherwise.
Where the thrust of your stance falls over, is that to secure the venue you claim is so vital to their plans; SISU have behaved immorally and illegally. If they want and need the stadium and it's revenues to make the club viable, there's a way to achieve this - negotiate a price and pay it.
It really should have been that simple
All I said is they invited offers from the so called interested parties. It was never stated or even alluded to that the club was officially put on the market. Because it hasn't ever been, apart from in recent weeks by the administrator. Why do you move the goalposts when you are contradicted?
What have I said that clearly has not been read by you; i do not endorse SISU's historical mistakes, it is simply my belief/opinion that they are acting in the best interests of the club with the stadium business.
Please offer proof that 'ACL offered Sisu a greatly reduced rent and access to match day revenues' - I believe this to be speculation peddled by the CET and smoke/mirrors thrown up by ACL. I will apologise and retract this if you can prove otherwise.
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