robbiekeane
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That makes absolutely zero sense
That makes absolutely zero senseWaghorn was a free signing, he’s only cost us in wages. We have payed fees for worse players
Yes it does, I said he was a free signing, the only money being payed was his wages. And that we have payed fees for worse playersThat makes absolutely zero sense
Yes, I genuinely believe his bout of covid put paid to his City career and perhaps even his career at this level. Shame really. You could never fault his effort so don't get the ridiculous vitriol on here.
I don't disagree with that, but Waghorn isn't a starter when everyone is fit, at best he's competing with Tavares and Walker for a place on the bench, and it looks like Tavares may now be ahead of him in the pecking order.Totally agree. He and Gyo seemed to link up well at the beginning of last season and had a decent partnership. Covid definitely took the wind out of his sails and he's not been the same since (regardless of off the pitch stuff).
I argue that him and Gyo is/was a better partnership that Godden/Gyo - not that I'm saying Waghorn is a better player than Godden.
He started well tbf then lost his place when he got injured
He then fell out with the manager when he was fit again and couldn't get back in the side
There was only going to be one winner there
Seems to be a lot of this going on of late, why so many people kicking off? I thought this was a tight knit harmonious group.
I don't disagree with that, but Waghorn isn't a starter when everyone is fit, at best he's competing with Tavares and Walker for a place on the bench, and it looks like Tavares may now be ahead of him in the pecking order.
Waghorn is apparently one of the higher earners too, so it makes sence to offload him if we possibly can.
We desperately need to free up some wages to bring in a AM on loan.
And Waghorn needs to find first team football somewhere.
Don't think it's a general problemSeems to be a lot of this going on of late, why so many people kicking off? I thought this was a tight knit harmonious group.
Of course if we're doing the what-ifs, Walker looked terrific partnering Gyokeres against... Barnsley(?) before he got injured, so there's your front two!Yeah, I mean if Waghorn was like he was last season before Covid, I think he'd be starting up top with Gyo with Godden and one of Walker/Tavares taking two attacking options on the bench.
As it stands now though, that's obviously not the case.
Seems to be a lot of this going on of late, why so many people kicking off? I thought this was a tight knit harmonious group.
Of course if we're doing the what-ifs, Walker looked terrific partnering Gyokeres against... Barnsley(?) before he got injured, so there's your front two!
But based on that selection, and that performance, I'd say the plan was as much Gyokeres and Walker to team together, with Waghorn playing when they wanted 5 in midfield / to give O'Hare a break.I mean, Gyo and Waghorn played together more than just one game!
But based on that selection, and that performance, I'd say the plan was as much Gyokeres and Walker to team together, with Waghorn playing when they wanted 5 in midfield / to give O'Hare a break.
Remember as well that Gyokeres had had an average at best loan spell with us, so nobody was probably expecting him to become indispensable, too, rather squad rotation with the other three depending on opponent.Yeah maybe.
Transfer fee versus wages who cares it’s the same pot of money and most transfer fees are paid in instalments. A cheap wage player with a fee is less money than a player for free with significant wages (like Waghorn)Yes it does, I said he was a free signing, the only money being payed was his wages. And that we have payed fees for worse players
Every changing room is portrayed as this, best set of lads massive club etc. Really everyone’s out for themselves
Rory Donnelly?
The obvious one is Hilssner in recent years, 3 year contract and we’ve seen him in a couple of friendlies
Kastaneer as well. Was lauded by Badlan and it was indicated he should've been playing above L1 upon his signing.
Don’t get me started on Paul Edwards (again).
He got on the pitch at least! That seemed more he was uncoachable than just well in this case, not being very good.
I’ve never seen Hilsner play. Probably a worse signing but possibly not a worse player.why do you guys need to go back to those players, are people saying Waghorn is a worse signing than Hilsner?
And no doubt a signing on feeYes it does, I said he was a free signing, the only money being payed was his wages. And that we have payed fees for worse players
I think what puts Kasntaneer on par in my eyes is that Badlan had apparently been monitoring him since his youth career prior to bringing him to the club. Regardless no due diligence was done on either, but for different reasons.
Just a point on the transfer activity of Badlan and his team, it's been pretty poor I think.
Hamer, O'Hare and Vik yes, however I'm pretty sure O'Hare was on the radar of most clubs as he was a league player in the Carlise United team, Vik was playing in England in u23 football and then on loan, so hardly a 'find'.
I'll give him Hamer, sure but the rest... we basically recruit players that Adi V knows (Kane, Panzo, Dabo, Maatsan, Palmer).
Point being, the others have all be awful and I'm not really sure what Badlan his team and are adding...
Just a point on the transfer activity of Badlan and his team, it's been pretty poor I think.
Hamer, O'Hare and Vik yes, however I'm pretty sure O'Hare was on the radar of most clubs as he was a league player in the Carlise United team, Vik was playing in England in u23 football and then on loan, so hardly a 'find'.
I'll give him Hamer, sure but the rest... we basically recruit players that Adi V knows (Kane, Panzo, Dabo, Maatsan, Palmer).
Point being, the others have all be awful and I'm not really sure what Badlan his team and are adding...
Buslshiiit.Yes, I genuinely believe his bout of covid put paid to his City career and perhaps even his career at this level. Shame really. You could never fault his effort so don't get the ridiculous vitriol on here.
Weird takeJust a point on the transfer activity of Badlan and his team, it's been pretty poor I think.
Hamer, O'Hare and Vik yes, however I'm pretty sure O'Hare was on the radar of most clubs as he was a league player in the Carlise United team, Vik was playing in England in u23 football and then on loan, so hardly a 'find'.
I'll give him Hamer, sure but the rest... we basically recruit players that Adi V knows (Kane, Panzo, Dabo, Maatsan, Palmer).
Point being, the others have all be awful and I'm not really sure what Badlan his team and are adding...
Not as simplistic as that, signings don't work out for a myriad of reasons, doesn't mean no due diligence was done, as you said yourself we'd been monitoring Kastaneer for years.
He's clearly a very talented footballer, had a Premier League move all but agreed earlier in his career & was even a regular in the Dutch top flight last season.
Badlan's comments that technically he's too good for L1 are probably true but it's not just about ability. Coupled with the fact it's a very different game over here (Holland-England transfers are notoriously hit & miss) & he just didn't have the right mentality to make it work.
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