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stay_up_skyblues

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #211
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I here you, but at 31 he's not going to get any better, spend the money on someone younger. ☺
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Any 20 something strikers with years of proven experience in this league available on a free for similar wages?
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #212
Deleted member 5849 said:
He's OK, not exactly 'marquee', but what are people expecting?
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Bloke in the casino said he won’t leave Portsmouth m8
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #213
stay_up_skyblues said:
Any 20 something strikers with years of proven experience in this league available on a free for similar wages?
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Any players we sign is a gamble.
 

lord_garrincha

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #214
better days said:
Ronaldo?
He's 35
Too old
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Better than...
Ronaldo?
He's 44
Too obese

In the days of Messi & Ronaldo... we think football is perfected, but Brazil Ronaldo 95-97 was fucking lethal!
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #215
He’s probably on 10 times what Biamou was on too
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #216
cc84cov said:
He’s probably on 10 times what Biamou was on too
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That’s probably the average wage difference between championship players and non league players - so about right really
 
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Hobo

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #217
slowpoke said:
How many games did Godden play fully fit and to repeat myself we don’t play with a target man do you agree or not ?
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He played 23 games - fully fit I don't know? But you could ask that question about a lot of players (Max Biamou for instance).

Waghorne scored 5 in about 32. The bottom line is it is 6 goals v 5 across the season, so a negligable difference when it comes to goal contribution.
 

Hobo

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #218
mark82 said:
To be fair, the model thing is relevant. Throughout Robins tenure we've always coupled developmental signings with experienced players. There is a model they look to work towards (as with most clubs) but that model very much includes these types of players too.
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It is like the assumption Shipley and Allen will be bombed out? No they were squad contributers. Cheap fillers who you could spend a lot more on replacements for the same ability.

The ones who we will try and off load are Kastener, Jobello and probably Hillsner.

It is about mixing and matching. Like Marosi being shifted out and Wilson staying? Marosi probably shaded it on ability but I suspect we have freed up a wage 3x on the person staying?
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #219
Hobo said:
He played 23 games - fully fit I don't know? But you could ask that question about a lot of players (Max Biamou for instance).

Waghorne scored 5 in about 32. The bottom line is it is 6 goals v 5 across the season, so a negligable difference when it comes to goal contribution.
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Negligible or waste of time effort and money
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #220
Unsure how I feel about this signing. Tons of experience which can only be a good thing but also not the “name” I would have gone for. If it turns out to be true, I’m excited to see how he fits in and what he can do. On a separate note, I really thought the max hysteria would die down now he’s left but if anything the delusion has evolved even further, I’m now seeing people saying they’d rather have him than Waghorn??


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blunted

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #221
Hobo said:
It is like the assumption Shipley and Allen will be bombed out? No they were squad contributers. Cheap fillers who you could spend a lot more on replacements for the same ability.

The ones who we will try and off load are Kastener, Jobello and probably Hillsner.

It is about mixing and matching. Like Marosi being shifted out and Wilson staying? Marosi probably shaded it on ability but I suspect we have freed up a wage 3x on the person staying?
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Hope Shippers is given another chance possibly playing on the right like near the seasons end, cutting in on his left foot. Allen I would love to come good but he looked well off the pace last season. A league 1 club will snap him up if available. Think we will struggle to move the other 3 on. Hilssner maybe we need one more look if his breathing problem is resolved.
 

better days

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #222
blunted said:
Hope Shippers is given another chance possibly playing on the right like near the seasons end, cutting in on his left foot. Allen I would love to come good but he looked well off the pace last season. A league 1 club will snap him up if available. Think we will struggle to move the other 3 on. Hilssner maybe we need one more look if his breathing problem is resolved.
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Don't expect to see Shippers featuring as much as last season
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #223
better days said:
Don't expect to see Shippers featuring as much as last season
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Think he'll be moved out? On loan or permanent.
 

better days

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #224
Skybluefaz said:
Think he'll be moved out? On loan or permanent.
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Really don't know but don't think he's high up in our plans
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #225
Skybluefaz said:
Think he'll be moved out? On loan or permanent.
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Loan
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #226
i like shippers but he was lazy last season unfortunately
 

CovLad94

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #227
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
i like shippers but he was lazy last season unfortunately
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Tbf weren't necessarily lazy, the games just sort of passed him by, nowhere near championship quality, time will tell though.
 
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CDK

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #228
CovLad94 said:
Tbf weren't necessarily lazy, the games just sort of passed him by, nowhere near championship quality, time will tell though.
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In certain games above his level for sure.
 

Samo

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #229
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
i like shippers but he was lazy last season unfortunately
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He has a goal in him but he doesn't have 90 minutes in him. Makes it difficult for any manager.
 
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Ibby

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #230
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #231
Samo said:
He has a goal in him but he doesn't have 90 minutes in him. Makes it difficult for any manager.
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He might have 90 minutes in him with our new first team coach influence
 

Hobo

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #232
blunted said:
Hope Shippers is given another chance possibly playing on the right like near the seasons end, cutting in on his left foot. Allen I would love to come good but he looked well off the pace last season. A league 1 club will snap him up if available. Think we will struggle to move the other 3 on. Hilssner maybe we need one more look if his breathing problem is resolved.
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It will be a make or break season for him. The covid break really did hamper our start to the season fitness wise and overlooked by a lot of our fans. A proper pre season and it will be down to him as with Allen.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #233
slowpoke said:
He might have 90 minutes in him with our new first team coach influence
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I just don't think he's a natural 'elite' athlete and tires quickly. Possibly some of it linked to asthma and have no idea about how he approaches his fitness in general so I assume that's fine. Can't imagine MR would have much time for him at all if he didn't take it seriously, esp given his ability deficit at this level.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #234
Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship, but unfortunately last season that wasn't enough to compensate for a lack of fitness, strength and confidence, which apart from a couple of instances led to him having a very disappointing season. Next season looks like a make or break one for him, where he really needs to address those weaknesses or he will be on his way out.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #235
Legia Sky Blue said:
Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship
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Ridiculous
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #236
Legia Sky Blue said:
Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship, but unfortunately last season that wasn't enough to compensate for a lack of fitness, strength and confidence, which apart from a couple of instances led to him having a very disappointing season. Next season looks like a make or break one for him, where he really needs to address those weaknesses or he will be on his way out.
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Seriously, stop with the wum posts everyone, it's so fucking dull
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #237
Legia Sky Blue said:
Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship, but unfortunately last season that wasn't enough to compensate for a lack of fitness, strength and confidence, which apart from a couple of instances led to him having a very disappointing season. Next season looks like a make or break one for him, where he really needs to address those weaknesses or he will be on his way out.
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Are you being serious
 
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better days

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #238
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I just don't think he's a natural 'elite' athlete and tires quickly. Possibly some of it linked to asthma and have no idea about how he approaches his fitness in general so I assume that's fine. Can't imagine MR would have much time for him at all if he didn't take it seriously, esp given his ability deficit at this level.
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Is he looking after himself properly?
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #239
Decent left peg and I still think he can up his game, but that’s outrageous.
 
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higgs

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #240
better days said:
Is he looking after himself properly?
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Does he like a beer and a curry?

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baldy

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #241
Grendel said:
Ridiculous
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I remember last season when he scored & did,I think,an embarrassing cupping of ears thing to a non-existent crowd & the FB village idiots all drooled & were saying ‘See? He IS championship material’…pathetic
 

better days

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  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #242
higgs said:
Does he like a beer and a curry?

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Definitely
And maybe likes tobacco
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #243
better days said:
Definitely
And maybe likes tobacco
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Get why he's always looking to catch his breath then makes sense

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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #244
better days said:
Definitely
And maybe likes tobacco
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Yeahhhhh, so did Johan Cruyff m8 …. Huhh?

 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #245
And George Hudson used to put his fag in the side of his mouth and stand outside the main stand signing loads of autographs
 
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