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CV3SkyBlue

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,101
procdoc said:
If Arsenal want him so badly they should cough up the readies
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Especially since they were willing to spend 50 million great british pounds on Madueke..
 
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SkyBlueBarmy84

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,102
Didn’t Vik / Sporting try and play a similar game when he left us? Albeit a less high-profile case.

Either way, it’s not sure it’s doing his reputation any favours…
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,103
covcity4life said:
He's made arsenal one of the best teams in Europe silverware or no silverware

I mean ten haag is a good comparison. He did sin silverware. But did he make man utd a top 5 team in europe? No. Got to look at the bigger picture.
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Ten Hag didn’t get the money or time Arteta has. Arteta is similar to Southgate. Hes not quite the man. He’s put them in a position to win but just hasn’t got it in him to get over the line.

Someone like Simeone or Mourinho would have won more.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,104
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Ten Hag didn’t get the money or time Arteta has. Arteta is similar to Southgate. Hes not quite the man. He’s put them in a position to win but just hasn’t got it in him to get over the line.

Someone like Simeone or Mourinho would have won more.
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completely disagree. No point going back and forth on it
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,105
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Ten Hag didn’t get the money or time Arteta has. Arteta is similar to Southgate. Hes not quite the man. He’s put them in a position to win but just hasn’t got it in him to get over the line.

Someone like Simeone or Mourinho would have won more.
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Ten Hag the man who spent 85 million on Anthony and 40 million on Onana. Moanio hasn't been a decent manager for 8 years plus.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,106
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Ten Hag the man who spent 85 million on Anthony and 40 million on Onana. Moanio hasn't been a decent manager for 8 years plus.
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I'm not sure he follows modern football outside of cov
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,107
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Ten Hag the man who spent 85 million on Anthony and 40 million on Onana. Moanio hasn't been a decent manager for 8 years plus.
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covcity4life said:
I'm not sure he follows modern football outside of cov
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Behave - I follow as much as you do, Again we saw the old “covcity4life is always right” was bollocks years ago

- also the same Mourinho who won a European trophy 3 years ago?
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,108
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Behave - I follow as much as you do, Again we saw the old “covcity4life is always right” was bollocks years ago

- also the same Mourinho who won a European trophy 3 years ago?
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How so? Not pretending to be perfect but my track record is pretty damn good id say

Only few years ago I stood up for Enzo maresca from people on here saying how shit he is and since then he won the championship, the conference league , top 4 and is in club world cup final

But hey he has a foreign name so it's easy...

P.s I love Jose and didn't make the comment about him
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2025
  • #2,109
SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
Didn’t Vik / Sporting try and play a similar game when he left us? Albeit a less high-profile case.
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Was going to say this. Hadn't Vik and his agent decided he was going there and that was that. No chance for us to put him to the market and maximise the return.

If you're happy to sign players that way you've really got to accept them leaving the same way.
 

Hullinho87

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,110
chiefdave said:
Was going to say this. Hadn't Vik and his agent decided he was going there and that was that. No chance for us to put him to the market and maximise the return.

If you're happy to sign players that way you've really got to accept them leaving the same way.
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He is under contract, that’s the be all and end all of the transfer system.

It was our clubs choice to accept the amount Sporting wanted to pay at the time and it’s Sporting’s choice to accept whatever price they see as acceptable now.

He is under contract, that’s the be all and end all of the transfer system.

That is is the only comparable point aligned to what you say here.
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,111
One of the main differences with this transfer in comparison to Vik leaving us is that he only had one year left on his contract here.
Even if he doesn’t leave Sporting in this transfer window he’ll still be worth some transfer fee in the future. …. Albeit much reduced!
Surely, with only 6m euro reported differences in the valuation the two clubs can get a deal done. It does seem like they don’t like each other!
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,112
 
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Hullinho87

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,113
Colin Steins Smile said:
One of the main differences with this transfer in comparison to Vik leaving us is that he only had one year left on his contract here.
Even if he doesn’t leave Sporting in this transfer window he’ll still be worth some transfer fee in the future. …. Albeit much reduced!
Surely, with only 6m euro reported differences in the valuation the two clubs can get a deal done. It does seem like they don’t like each other!
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The transfer will 100% happen. Sporting just won’t budge, as they shouldn’t and Arsenal will pay it eventually.

Many reasons for this, but a big one being Sporting’s “Dortmund” model. They can’t be seen as a soft touch to continue to buy talent and sell on for huge profits.
 

Hullinho87

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,114
AFCCOVENTRY said:
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This is part of the irony of this situation.
The agent is playing the political game with Sporting to get this deal done but as is being reported everywhere, it’s the agent fee that is holding up the deal along with the add on’s Sporting want.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,115
Hullinho87 said:
This is part of the irony of this situation.
The agent is playing the political game with Sporting to get this deal done but as is being reported everywhere, it’s the agent fee that is holding up the deal along with the add on’s Sporting want.
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Henry is generally right so
That’s a good thing !
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,116
Mcbean said:
Henry is generally right so
That’s a good thing !
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Henry is a pompous git
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,117
Hullinho87 said:
This is part of the irony of this situation.
The agent is playing the political game with Sporting to get this deal done but as is being reported everywhere, it’s the agent fee that is holding up the deal along with the add on’s Sporting want.
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Done a decent job but he’s a greedy manipulative fucker.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,118
lord_garrincha said:
Yep... terminating his contract will sort him right out
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You would think Sporting could sue him for breaching contract too. If he has a get out clause, perhaps it should be to that value.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,119
covcity4life said:
How so? Not pretending to be perfect but my track record is pretty damn good id say

Only few years ago I stood up for Enzo maresca from people on here saying how shit he is and since then he won the championship, the conference league , top 4 and is in club world cup final

But hey he has a foreign name so it's easy...

P.s I love Jose and didn't make the comment about him
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Robins set to leave Barnsley

Can we read anything into this, particularly as the rumour mill says that Ranson will choose Robins if/when he takes over? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/barnsley/9484019.stm
www.skybluestalk.co.uk

@HuckerbyDublinWhelan cc4life is always right!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,120
covcity4life said:
That's BS. He's clearly a v good manager.

You think he planned to have a striker crisis? What ITK do you have to be sure he told arsenal don't buy me a striker?

The if he was English nonsense works both ways. Foreigners get extra scrutiny from average British fan I would say
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Well he's failed to buy a striker in a number of years while selling the ones he did have, so I guess you could say he did plan for it.
 
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SkyBlueAussie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,121
Happy with Wilson.
Geez, weren't so long ago we voted Oggy as our best player..and he really wasn't that good was he?
The amount of times i saw him go one way, when the ball went the other.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,122
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Well he's failed to buy a striker in a number of years while selling the ones he did have, so I guess you could say he did plan for it.
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He had gab jesus who got injured. MYbe the right striker wasn't available so he didn't just sanction the signing of any old striker?

Also with plan B and C upfront he make semi final of UCL and last team to beat psg possibly or close to it. He's clearly a good manager and just dumb to pretend otherwise
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,123
AFCCOVENTRY said:
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Well respected football journalist Henry Winter on the ball there.
Maybe Vik should change his agent after this deal.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,124
It was long ago that the general consensus on here was that his agent had played a blinder.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,125
Sick Boy said:
It was long ago that the general consensus on here was that his agent had played a blinder.
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He still has, Gyokeres ends up at Arsenal (eventually) and the agent makes himself a fortune.

I'd say he's more than happy with his work.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,126
fatso said:
He still has, Gyokeres ends up at Arsenal (eventually) and the agent makes himself a fortune.

I'd say he's more than happy with his work.
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Of course he will be; he’ll also have made Vik a huge fortune in the process.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,127
Mcbean said:
Henry is generally right so
That’s a good thing !
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no, he's not

hope he is though
 

Chris1987

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,128
covcity4life said:
He had gab jesus who got injured. MYbe the right striker wasn't available so he didn't just sanction the signing of any old striker?

Also with plan B and C upfront he make semi final of UCL and last team to beat psg possibly or close to it. He's clearly a good manager and just dumb to pretend otherwise
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If he isn't prepared to buy " any old striker" why buy any old midfielder such as Jorghino ? Not denying that he's a good manager but he's won one trophy since he's been there and despite plenty of opportunities he hasn't chosen to spend on a quality striker instead spending on back up mids and defenders. This failure to address buying for the position Arsenal need more than any other is massive oversight.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,129
Chris1987 said:
If he isn't prepared to buy " any old striker" why buy any old midfielder such as Jorghino ? Not denying that he's a good manager but he's won one trophy since he's been there and despite plenty of opportunities he hasn't chosen to spend on a quality striker instead spending on back up mids and defenders. This failure to address buying for the position Arsenal need more than any other is massive oversight.
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Jorginho is a quality player.

I mean for all the mistakes people branding about it's a miracle they finished 2nd in prem 2 seasons in a row and final 4 of CL lol
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,130
Chicken Mcgraw said:

Robins set to leave Barnsley

Can we read anything into this, particularly as the rumour mill says that Ranson will choose Robins if/when he takes over? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/barnsley/9484019.stm
www.skybluestalk.co.uk

@HuckerbyDublinWhelan cc4life is always right!
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He belongs with dongo
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,131
fernandopartridge said:
He belongs with dongo
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What you mean by that babes?
 

procdoc

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,132
David O'Day said:
no, he's not

hope he is though
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Henry Winter is a highly respected journalist. Another person you don’t seem to like? Maybe you’re the problem…
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,133
procdoc said:
Henry Winter is a highly respected journalist. Another person you don’t seem to like? Maybe you’re the problem…
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Highly respected ?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,134
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Highly respected ?
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Multi award winning journo who's written for the Times and Telegraph. If you don't respect him, who on earth do you respect? Second Tier podcast?...
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 13, 2025
  • #2,135
It’s amazing how quickly the Sporting fans have turned on him. He could have left an icon but instead completely destroyed his legacy with what’s going on.
 
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