Viktor Moving on (10 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Reports of Juve interest now.

 

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[long way home]

The closer it gets to a fee being known more will come to the table. The price will go up and this will be an auction. Great for us dint really care where he ends up.

 

[Hobo]

The closer it gets to a fee being known more will come to the table. The price will go up and this will be an auction. Great for us dint really care where he ends up.

Interest is not a bidding war. In fact some of the worlds top teams seem to have put a ceiling on what he is worth. Nobody seems to be saying we need to snap him up before someone else nicks him from under our nose.

I can't put my finger on it. But something is making the top clubs reticent about signing him. Especially when so many top teams are looking for a goal scorer.

 

[biggymania]

Interest is not a bidding war. In fact some of the worlds top teams seem to have put a ceiling on what he is worth. Nobody seems to be saying we need to snap him up before someone else nicks him from under our nose.

I can't put my finger on it. But something is making the top clubs reticent about signing him. Especially when so many top teams are looking for a goal scorer.

It's a combination of age, the quality of the league he's playing in and perhaps the limited systems he would fit into at that level. Even at a price below the release clause, in a top tier league it's quite a risk, when for a bit more money you can get someone younger with sell-on potential and a higher ceiling to develop.

I say all of this as a huge fan of him!

 

[Hobo]

It's a combination of age, the quality of the league he's playing in and perhaps the limited systems he would fit into at that level. Even at a price below the release clause, in a top tier league it's quite a risk, when for a bit more money you can get someone younger with sell-on potential and a higher ceiling to develop.

I say all of this as a huge fan of him!

I totally agree. Fans just look at players with their hearts without engaging their brains. Fans view players on a very one dimensional level, let alone squads.

 

[Lamps]

Personally I would like him to join the right club, develop and win stuff.

Your post sums up what is wrong with the world.

Self Interest!

Self interest for not caring where Gyokeres goes as long as the money is right?

It was excellent watching him turn into a world class player playing for us. But the money we receive is more important to us than how the rest of his career goes. Do you really think he lays in bed awake worrying about us?

The odds are we will never play against him. If we do I hope he has a proper stinker.

 

[biggymania]

Slightly poorly translated comment from the President of Sporting CP, Frederico Varandas:

I tried to take three days of vacation, I came back yesterday. I saw so much information and counter information that it is fair to come and explain the process. It starts last year, when the season ends and Sporting is national champion. During the market we saw that it was going to stay because there was no proposal. The agent spoke to us, to add some clauses. Hugo Viana, as he always did, and very well, managed the relationship with the agents. This relational space is made with the sports director. One of the agent's great concerns was whether we were going to demand the termination clause. Hugo Viana was negotiating with the agents, over several meetings, until the agent demanded the presence of the president. In this meeting, where the president, the agent and Viana were, Gyokeres was not present, he wanted to guarantee certain things. And what was closed? That Sporting was not going to require a termination clause now. For a reason: it was going to be 27 years old and no player leaves Portugal at the age of 27 for 100 or 90 million. In this same meeting the agent wanted to anchor the exit to a value. I said this sentence: 'It's not worth setting a value because I don't know what will happen in a year. I don't know if it will be 40, 60 or 80. What I can guarantee is that I will not demand 100 million euros. From here I never talked to the agent again, I never talked to the player about exits or values. Now I see in the press the agent debiting information. I want to make one thing clear: Sporting has common sense and has a word. Gyokeres scored 63 goals, 10 assists. Fantastic performance. Surely one of the best players who stepped on the Portuguese lawns. And Sporting will not demand the clause

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One thing you should know about me is that threats, blackmail, insults don’t work with me. I can guarantee that Viktor Gyökeres will not leave for 60+10 because I never promised. This game that the agent is playing only makes the situation worse.

To this day, Sporting has not had an offer for Viktor Gyökeres, neither today nor last season

Basically, they're saying the agent / media is talking bollocks about them reneging about the release clause. Seems pretty reasonable - they're saying they won't insist on the release clause but still want to get the best price they can. I suppose this implies they have rejected some interest (perhaps not officially an "offer") below "60+10" already and the agent is pissy about it.

Lovely drama for a boring post-season so far.

 

[Grendel]

The closer it gets to a fee being known more will come to the table. The price will go up and this will be an auction. Great for us dint really care where he ends up.

I doubt there will be a bidding war. You get the impression there have been very few real enquiries.

 

[Speedie's Head]

I can't put my finger on it. But something is making the top clubs reticent about signing him. Especially when so many top teams are looking for a goal scorer.

I suspect it's probably like his move to Sporting, he already knows where he wants to go.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Slightly poorly translated comment from the President of Sporting CP, Frederico Varandas:



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Basically, they're saying the agent / media is talking bollocks about them reneging about the release clause. Seems pretty reasonable - they're saying they won't insist on the release clause but still want to get the best price they can. I suppose this implies they have rejected some interest (perhaps not officially an "offer") below "60+10" already and the agent is pissy about it.

Lovely drama for a boring post-season so far.

Anyone else getting flashbacks to Gyok saying we were charging too much and Doug responding on the radio that we decided the amount

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Anyone else getting flashbacks to Gyok saying we were charging too much and Doug responding on the radio that we decided the amount

Same agent isn’t it?

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Same agent isn’t it?

I assume so

 

[baldy]

Personally I would like him to join the right club, develop and win stuff.

Your post sums up what is wrong with the world.

Self Interest!

Haha what a wimpy response - I couldn't give a shiny shit where he ends up either

 

[biggymania]

Anyone else getting flashbacks to Gyok saying we were charging too much and Doug responding on the radio that we decided the amount

Ha yes, exactly!

You sort of have to expect this even though it's unpleasant. Every 1M off the sale price increases the size of the contract for Viktor & his agent, and lowers the total cost for the buying club. It's just negotiation. It's a shame it has to happen like this in public because it does kind of sour things for fans of the player/club but it is what it is.

 

[skybluecam]

I can't put my finger on it. But something is making the top clubs reticent about signing him. Especially when so many top teams are looking for a goal scorer.

Because he’s 27 and never actually played in one of the big leagues, and Sporting probably want £70m for him.

Clubs are probably looking at the likes of Darwin Nunez, Gonçalo Ramos, Joao Felix etc. who haven’t really justified the fees.

 

[Ccfc_Addy]

Anyone else getting flashbacks to Gyok saying we were charging too much and Doug responding on the radio that we decided the amount

Yes - it definitely strikes me as the agent trying the same tactics as last time

 

[skybluecam]

I’m 90% sure he’s still moving, the noise now is just posturing to try and drive the fee up/down.

He obviously wants out and someone will pay up. Might even end up at man united after all.

 

[Captain Dart]

I’m 90% sure he’s still moving, the noise now is just posturing to try and drive the fee up/down.

He obviously wants out and someone will pay up. Might even end up at man united after all.

But likely not till the last few days of the window.

 

[SBT]

Tell the whiny Swedish bastard to pipe down and go wherever the dollar signs are, he can make some more wisecracks about how Sporting were robbed if he actually makes a success of it afterwards. Just give us our money.

 

[long way home]

I doubt there will be a bidding war. You get the impression there have been very few real enquiries.

Its all about the fee, if it was known what would get it done, every club with that capacity to pay would look. Not saying they would buy but im sure enough are interested that someone is going to pull the trigger.

 

[skybluecam]

I doubt there will be a bidding war. You get the impression there have been very few real enquiries.

Do you? I think there will be multiple clubs interested.

 

[alexccfc99]

 

[Balli001]

Lots of false claims in there but it is talksport so...

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Oh dear it all has come out in the wash King.

 

[Balli001]

Oh dear it all has come out in the wash King.

What has? The article is inaccurate. We sold 5% of the sell on fee not the whole thing

 

[Ccfcisparks]

What has? The article is inaccurate. We sold 5% of the sell on fee not the whole thing

Yes it was sarcasm

 

[Balli001]

Yes it was sarcasm

Maybe try harder then

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

King needs to come out and state it ain’t true, talk sport are normally full of shit

 

[Terry_dactyl]

King needs to come out and state it ain’t true, talk sport are normally full of shit

Or just ignore it cos it’s clearly bollocks.

 

[Bertola]

This innacuratenreport might do us a favour. Clubs thinking we don't have as much money as we do might not try and hold us to ransom as much

 

[False9]

King needs to come out and state it ain’t true, talk sport are normally full of shit

Why would he do that. Better for our negotiating position if it's played down

 

[Sick Boy]

I doubt there will be a bidding war. You get the impression there have been very few real enquiries.

Most of the stories have blatantly been planted by his agent under instruction from VG. I’d imagine the Man Utd interest is probably the only firm interest at this stage, apart from Saudi Arabia.

 

[SBT]

Love the notion that we mortgaged the future of the club by binning off the Gyokeres sell-on fee so we could sign BTA and Norman Bassette.

 

[Lamps]

This innacuratenreport might do us a favour. Clubs thinking we don't have as much money as we do might not try and hold us to ransom as much

We will only get about 4m from his sale. That's peanuts these days. It can cost that much for a decent League 1 player.

 

[wingy]

King has said on record that it won't be significant in respect of spends if there are any.
If it were a significant sum maybe it's in the interest of clubs to leave it late to keep us down.