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Hobo

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The league is too mediocre for two teams to overtake you as long as you maintain any sort of form. I’m assuming you’ve named your next two games. Even if you lose them both (you won’t), you’d be 6 points clear of third with the best GD in the league. I’d love to think you could be caught but the gap is too big now unless you completely fall apart.

The assumption form will be maintained while other teams go on a run and therefore teams can't catch us is nonsense.

Form can go in different directions for several teams.

It's the start of December plenty of times for teams to chip away.
 

suffolkblue

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The assumption form will be maintained while other teams go on a run and therefore teams can't catch us is nonsense.

Form can go in different directions for several teams.
Of course it can, I get that. I also know that when we were at the top of the division two seasons ago and supporters of other clubs were saying we’d go up I took it with a pinch of salt. Given what you’ve been through in the past 20 years I completely get why you don’t want to allow yourselves to believe. I was the same when we were at the top of the championship after scraping promotion from league one. I’m telling you though, as an objective outsider that your team is good enough to get the points you need to get over the line and that you’ll do it. The gap might narrow in fact it probably will but unless you completely implode you’ll make it.
 

clint van damme

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It looked a foul from where I was but if it wasn’t then it was a booking. Ref was shocking, I’ve said that already. We were gifted an injury time penalty at Birmingham on the first day of the season, were on the right side of a key decision today but other than that I think we’ve been on the wrong side of most marginal decisions.

Last season we were harshly done by so many times even with VAR (have a look at Kalvin Phillips sending off against Leicester). We’d have gone down with a whimper regardless but it still irks that we had so much go against us. when you go up, unfortunately for you the same will happen. It really does feel corrupt at times. It’s probably not but it doesn’t stop you feeling it’s all scripted when every major decision seems to go against you.

You should have had a man sent off v Blackburn
 

Jamesimus

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Maybe too soon and if you want me to I’ll quietly slope off. Yours is the only non-Ipswich forum I’ve ever posted on, I’m only back because you seem a really decent bunch.

Firstly, you’re definitely going up. Today’s result doesn’t change that. I’ve had a quick look at the posts on here and am surprised how scathing some are of the performance today. There’s a quality and rhythm to your play, even when you’re below par, that is going to carry you though. In a 46 game season you’ll lose some and it’s about how you respond, which your team seems to do well this season. We got hammered 4-0 by Leeds in December in the season we got promoted to the prem. It really was a hammering too, not like today. They took us apart and could have won by 6 or 7. We thought it would rock the team but it didn’t, they just put it behind them straight away and went on another good run.

I felt we deserved to win in the end today but it wasn’t a 3-0 game. It turned on fine margins - walton’s save onto the post, our goal and the ref deciding not to give Hirst a second yellow when he’s booked your player earlier for doing the same. I didn’t think either were really bookings (both were seconds after the whistle, they weren’t real dissent where a player just smashes the ball away when they know the game has stopped). If you’re booking one though, you book them both.

I also felt we were going to win today because unlike every other team to come to Portman Road this season with the possible exception of Southampton, you came to play football and try to win. You were the better team for the first 30 minutes and even at 2-0 you remained composed. If you’d got one back, I think you’s have got another. The consensus of the town fans around us was that you’re a good team, a lot of similarities with how we were 2 years ago.

You deserve a points deduction for that grim orange kit, the cocky 12 year old cov fan mouthing off before the game about Ipswich being a “bus stop in Norwich” got what he deserved and “is this a library” is the dullest song ever sung by away fans (we do it, I cringe then too). Aside from these small gripes, I wish you well for the rest of the season other than on 29th (my first trip on a march day to your current home, looking forward to it). Keep the faith and hopefully we’ll be playing each other in the Premier League next season.

I hope you get your feet ran over by some agricultural machinery you nasty, reasonable freaks. We are not a decent bunch, we are animals.

Today’s game won’t define our season; plenty of winnable ones against teams with far less quality than Ipswich.

I know we lost, but the manner of it actually made me a little more confident also (following on from another City fan who has posted similar). Just hope the injuries don’t mount up too much more.

Any news on Torp anyone?
 

SleepyGinger

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I hope you get your feet ran over by some agricultural machinery you nasty, reasonable freaks. We are not a decent bunch, we are animals.

Today’s game won’t define our season; plenty of winnable ones against teams with far less quality than Ipswich.

I know we lost, but the manner of it actually made me a little more confident also (following on from another City fan who has posted similar). Just hope the injuries don’t mount up too much more.

Any news on Torp anyone?
Should be good for Tuesday, as should Sakamoto
 

suffolkblue

Well-Known Member
You should have had a man sent off v Blackburn
Very possibly. Matusiwa - our most important player. Would have felt wrong having him suspended today as Greaves got a suspension after being sent off in the abandoned game against Blackburn earlier in the season.We were rotten against Blackburn on Tuesday, definitely a point gained.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Maybe too soon and if you want me to I’ll quietly slope off. Yours is the only non-Ipswich forum I’ve ever posted on, I’m only back because you seem a really decent bunch.

Firstly, you’re definitely going up. Today’s result doesn’t change that. I’ve had a quick look at the posts on here and am surprised how scathing some are of the performance today. There’s a quality and rhythm to your play, even when you’re below par, that is going to carry you though. In a 46 game season you’ll lose some and it’s about how you respond, which your team seems to do well this season. We got hammered 4-0 by Leeds in December in the season we got promoted to the prem. It really was a hammering too, not like today. They took us apart and could have won by 6 or 7. We thought it would rock the team but it didn’t, they just put it behind them straight away and went on another good run.

I felt we deserved to win in the end today but it wasn’t a 3-0 game. It turned on fine margins - walton’s save onto the post, our goal and the ref deciding not to give Hirst a second yellow when he’s booked your player earlier for doing the same. I didn’t think either were really bookings (both were seconds after the whistle, they weren’t real dissent where a player just smashes the ball away when they know the game has stopped). If you’re booking one though, you book them both.

I also felt we were going to win today because unlike every other team to come to Portman Road this season with the possible exception of Southampton, you came to play football and try to win. You were the better team for the first 30 minutes and even at 2-0 you remained composed. If you’d got one back, I think you’s have got another. The consensus of the town fans around us was that you’re a good team, a lot of similarities with how we were 2 years ago.

You deserve a points deduction for that grim orange kit, the cocky 12 year old cov fan mouthing off before the game about Ipswich being a “bus stop in Norwich” got what he deserved and “is this a library” is the dullest song ever sung by away fans (we do it, I cringe then too). Aside from these small gripes, I wish you well for the rest of the season other than on 29th (my first trip on a march day to your current home, looking forward to it). Keep the faith and hopefully we’ll be playing each other in the Premier League next season.
Thanks, fair assessment. I agree re the yellows, re kicking ball away,but ref bottled it. Either do it don't give cards. We have a small squad and losing Saka and Torp today was fatal. All the best. You'll at least be in the playoffs., maybe higher. No guarantees for any teams, tough games coming.
 

shmmeee

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Fuck all the best. I hope you fail to get promoted. Nothing personal just what’s best for the game.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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We’ve just beaten a team who miles clear at the top 3-0 so this will probably make me sound like an idiot and/or arrogant but I don’t think we were that great today. We have rarely played to anything like the level that a team that’s cost as much as ours did should be.

We took advantage of the one spell of pressure we had in the first half and played well for periods in the second half but there is still something missing. We’re nowhere near as cohesive as were 2 seasons ago. We have some talented players and as you say the strength in depth means we can bring on players that would start for almost every other other Championship club and for some would be their star player (Jack Clarke should not be on the bench for any team that’s not in the top half of the prem) but we’re really not convincing. If we go up it will be more about how average so many other teams are than us being a really good side.
Another day, in fact most days.. second yellow, game over for Ipswich. That's life.
 

SkyblueTexan

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Very possibly. Matusiwa - our most important player. Would have felt wrong having him suspended today as Greaves got a suspension after being sent off in the abandoned game against Blackburn earlier in the season.We were rotten against Blackburn on Tuesday, definitely a point gained.
That game should not have been replayed but rather continued under the same conditions (i.e. from the 80th minute onwards at 1-0 to Blackburn with 11 players against 10). By the way, did you go to the Oxford forum after your match last week?
 

suffolkblue

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That game should not have been replayed but rather continued under the same conditions (i.e. from the 80th minute onwards at 1-0 to Blackburn with 11 players against 10). By the way, did you go to the Oxford forum after your match last week?
The EFL disagree with you . Blackburn are going to be in the same position again now thanks to their pitch - exactly the same thing happened today with them a goal up and half an hour to play.

As for the Oxford forum. No I didn’t, I said that in my first paragraph. My previous posts on this forum had nothing to do with Ipswich and were complimentary about your team (after losing to Man U and then when you were robbed against Sunderland in the play offs). If we lose on 29th I’ll come on and post here though, just for you.

You come across as very angry. Life’s too short Texan, relax a bit and don’t get wound up by football forums, especially when the poster isn’t even looking for a reaction. Enjoy the rest of your weekend
 

suffolkblue

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Another day, in fact most days.. second yellow, game over for Ipswich. That's life.
No argument from me that we got lucky with that decision. Not sure it would have been game over but it’s very unlikely that we’d have got more than a point. I can’t even remember Hirst’s first booking. The ref was very keen to dish out yellow cards for minor infringements which made it inevitable that he would create the situation he found himself in when Hirst was flagged offside. I’ve seen Lampard’s post - match interview and agree with his assessment.

Some comments on the Ipswich forum about your number 28 getting off of a second booking shortly before it. I can’t remember it, it may be rubbish but I mention it because he booked so many for innocuous fouls that he took some of the competitiveness out of the game. As I’ve said more than once, the ref was very poor and today we benefitted from it. Wednesday night or next Saturday we’ll be on the wrong end of those decisions.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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No argument from me that we got lucky with that decision. Not sure it would have been game over but it’s very unlikely that we’d have got more than a point. I can’t even remember Hirst’s first booking. The ref was very keen to dish out yellow cards for minor infringements which made it inevitable that he would create the situation he found himself in when Hirst was flagged offside. I’ve seen Lampard’s post - match interview and agree with his assessment.

Some comments on the Ipswich forum about your number 28 getting off of a second booking shortly before it. I can’t remember it, it may be rubbish but I mention it because he booked so many for innocuous fouls that he took some of the competitiveness out of the game. As I’ve said more than once, the ref was very poor and today we benefitted from it. Wednesday night or next Saturday we’ll be on the wrong end of those decisions.
Can’t say I disagree with any of your posts to be fair, there’s a critical mass of missing quality in any team before it becomes too much. For Wrexham it was at the back today it was going forwards; games are decided on these fine margins like players missing glorious chances, honking referee decisions and so on. Charlton last week got away with a penalty and DOGSO red card then almost scored immediately after-if they actually did we probably lose and the referee again becomes the focus.

I think the actual scoreline is very harsh but then I thought 4-0 was very harsh on Millwall earlier…it happens. Frustrates me that a lot of us correctly highlighted your weaknesses but as a team we didn’t make much effort to exploit any of them, but again, too much missing quality will do that. I hope for the return fixture we’re closer to full strength and we see those deficiencies exposed.

Last word-if VAR were in place for those clear and obvious mistakes, and only those, we’d be able to focus on the players rather than officials. The standard somehow keeps getting worse.
 

CovValleyBoy

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I'll say this to our Ipswich mate.

When we play you on Dec 29th. You will see shithousery of the tallest order from Ipstich.
McKenna will have his little "coaching" session on the side line after a predetermined injury.
Maybe one each half.

Hopefully we get a ref.
 

Speedie's Head

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I’m a big fan of some of your away kits. The brown one from 79 (ish) was incredible to 8 year old me. The black and white two tone kit you wore in the game at PR just before Covid was lovely but I’m not having that one you had on today. Shocking!
The colour of a ;)Monzo card mate
 

suffolkblue

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I'll say this to our Ipswich mate.

When we play you on Dec 29th. You will see shithousery of the tallest order from Ipstich.
McKenna will have his little "coaching" session on the side line after a predetermined injury.
Maybe one each half.

Hopefully we get a ref.
The unofficial time outs seem to have stopped. You’re right though it used to happen regular as clockwork - Chaplin 9 times out of 10, midway through the first half. Not seen it since we were promoted. In fact the shithousery generally (there were and are many, many worse than us) has disappeared and being honest I think it’s one of the missing elements. Sam Morsy was an incredible captain for us and a horrible player to play against. One of those that you love on your team but hate him if he’s an opponent. Nunez will dive around occasionally, Greaves (currently out of the team) falls over at any contact which is not a trait you want in a centre back but other than that we’re fairly “clean”.

Cov seemed very slow at taking set pieces yesterday until you went one down. Not for time-wasting purposes as I saw it, more about building up the angst in the defending team and making sure the ref saw every push and hold in the box before the ball went live. Despite the number of bookings and the controversial decisions I thought yesterday was a fairly contest, decent game between two teams who wanted to play. If you want shithousery, Derby are your team. I’ve never seen a more stop-start game than the one against them at PR. The ball was hardly in play, it was almost unwatchable.
 

suffolkblue

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Can’t say I disagree with any of your posts to be fair, there’s a critical mass of missing quality in any team before it becomes too much. For Wrexham it was at the back today it was going forwards; games are decided on these fine margins like players missing glorious chances, honking referee decisions and so on. Charlton last week got away with a penalty and DOGSO red card then almost scored immediately after-if they actually did we probably lose and the referee again becomes the focus.

I think the actual scoreline is very harsh but then I thought 4-0 was very harsh on Millwall earlier…it happens. Frustrates me that a lot of us correctly highlighted your weaknesses but as a team we didn’t make much effort to exploit any of them, but again, too much missing quality will do that. I hope for the return fixture we’re closer to full strength and we see those deficiencies exposed.

Last word-if VAR were in place for those clear and obvious mistakes, and only those, we’d be able to focus on the players rather than officials. The standard somehow keeps getting worse.
You won’t be saying the same this time next year. VAR is the worst thing to happen to watching a game live in the 50 years I’ve been going to football matches.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
An entire body out at least.

It was no accident.
It's not a red card. Yellow was right. Would only be red if it's denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. In fairness, I think he just lost his bearings. He'd have been able to clear it for a throw comfortably if he'd realised he was out. Ref got that one right, but bottled the Hirst one (given he'd booked Eccles for the exact same thing).
 

pusbccfc

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It's not a red card. Yellow was right. Would only be red if it's denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. In fairness, I think he just lost his bearings. He'd have been able to clear it for a throw comfortably if he'd realised he was out. Ref got that one right, but bottled the Hirst one (given he'd booked Eccles for the exact same thing).

That's why it's a poor rule.

The keeper knows exactly what he's doing and knows he'll only get a yellow card.

He definitely didn't lose his bearings when you watch it at full speed.
 

LilleSkyBlue

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I’m a big fan of some of your away kits. The brown one from 79 (ish) was incredible to 8 year old me. The black and white two tone kit you wore in the game at PR just before Covid was lovely but I’m not having that one you had on today. Shocking!
That bloody orange kit embarrasses me. We look like a joke in away stadiums. Hope the club makes millions of dollars out of it as they manifestly hope to.
 

suffolkblue

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That's why it's a poor rule.

The keeper knows exactly what he's doing and knows he'll only get a yellow card.

He definitely didn't lose his bearings when you watch it at

We've been on the wrong end of a mildly controversial VAR decision!
I remember. It was the reason I registered on here to post how hard done by you were. It makes it even more surprising that some of your fans now see it as something missing from the championship.
 

suffolkblue

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That's why it's a poor rule.

The keeper knows exactly what he's doing and knows he'll only get a yellow card.

He definitely didn't lose his bearings when you watch it at full speed.
If have been very annoyed with the Hirst decision if one of your players had escaped a second booking for it after what had gone before. It wouldn’t even have occurred to me that your keeper should be sent off for doing what Walton did.
 

pusbccfc

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I remember. It was the reason I registered on here to post how hard done by you were. It makes it even more surprising that some of your fans now see it as something missing from the championship.

A lot of my anger comes from a very poor penalty decision missed last week against us.

VAR would give it instantly.

I absolutely hate VAR though.
 

Bidda

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That bloody orange kit embarrasses me. We look like a joke in away stadiums. Hope the club makes millions of dollars out of it as they manifestly hope to.
I like the kit. Easy to spot on the periphery of one’s eye, ideal when snap decisions are needed in a busy footballing situation. Don’t Barcelona have a similar kit?
 

David O'Day

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Very possibly. Matusiwa - our most important player. Would have felt wrong having him suspended today as Greaves got a suspension after being sent off in the abandoned game against Blackburn earlier in the season.We were rotten against Blackburn on Tuesday, definitely a point gained.
Why would it have been wrong, he deserved a red.
 

suffolkblue

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Why would it have been wrong, he deserved a red.
That’s your opinion. I get it, I’m not going to justify a decision I didn’t make. All I can say is that hand on heart I would not have expected your keeper to be sent off for that. If a forward is one on one and the handball is all that stops a clear goal scoring opportunity then fair enough but at first watch (I saw it live, not seen it back) it wasn’t one where immediately before it happened I thought we were in trouble. I’ve already said Hirst should have been sent off on the basis that your man got a booking shortly before for something similar.
 

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