VE Day (13 Viewers)

[SkyBlueDom26]

We will always remember and honour those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

 

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[MalcSB]

We will always remember and honour those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

And some will seek to take advantage. If they don’t want to accept and live in and by our culture, fuck off.



Don’t plan to attack a significant celebration and memorial.

Eight men including seven Iranians arrested in two England anti-terrorism operations

Counter-terrorism police disrupt suspected plot amid concern over rise in Tehran-backed hostile activity

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

And some will seek to take advantage. If they don’t want to accept and live in and by our culture, fuck off.



Don’t plan to attack a significant celebration and memorial.

Eight men including seven Iranians arrested in two England anti-terrorism operations

Counter-terrorism police disrupt suspected plot amid concern over rise in Tehran-backed hostile activity

www.theguardian.com

Yep I did wonder what the arrests were related to
That’s gratitude for you eh?

 

[MalcSB]

Yep I did wonder what the arrests were related to
That’s gratitude for you eh?

I think I have said elsewhere that this biting the hand that feeds you (to use the vernacular and despite relatively small numbers involved - but that number can certainly cause some disproportionate death and injury. Can you imagine the headlines and pixelated pictures and videos of victims?

It isn’t all that surprising that there are then the right wing reactions that are so condemned on here, for example. And these security operations can’t be kept secret to avoid winding people up.

 

[MalcSB]

Hard to disagree

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Perhaps just a few weeks before VE Day my great great uncle was killed as part of one of many failed attempts to capture Dunkirk which was one of the German holdouts bypassed as the Allies advanced. Seemingly random inexperienced units were sent against a battle hardened garrison resulting in needless deaths in the closing days of the war.

 

[MalcSB]

Perhaps just a few weeks before VE Day my great great uncle was killed as part of one of many failed attempts to capture Dunkirk which was one of the German holdouts bypassed as the Allies advanced. Seemingly random inexperienced units were sent against a battle hardened garrison resulting in needless deaths in the closing days of the war.

I always feel that those late actions in wars were deplorable. It may not have been quite as obvious that it was the closing days of WW2 as it had been for WW1. It woukd be interesting to know what strategic purpose capturing Dunkirk would have achieved, beyond it being for appearance sakes that is.I doubt they were intending it become a base for small boats to bring thousands over from the UK in small boats, although the reverse process seems to be operating effectively, albeit unopposed from land, sea or air.

 

[SBT]

Hard to disagree

Uhhh yeah actually I do disagree

 

[mmttww]

Hard to disagree

Not really. Writing off whole generations is weird.

 

[PVA]

When your first thought about VE Day is to slag off immigrants it's probably time put down the Daily Mail and log off Facebook for a bit.

 

[shmmeee]

I think I have said elsewhere that this biting the hand that feeds you (to use the vernacular and despite relatively small numbers involved - but that number can certainly cause some disproportionate death and injury. Can you imagine the headlines and pixelated pictures and videos of victims?

It isn’t all that surprising that there are then the right wing reactions that are so condemned on here, for example. And these security operations can’t be kept secret to avoid winding people up.

Do we know how much it’s normal people radicalising once here vs Iran sending people specifically? Iran is very tight on ex pats having spoken to some. This seems more like traditional geopolitics than the usual lone wolf self radicalising dickhead we normally see.

 

[shmmeee]

Hard to disagree

Fuck off. Jesus won’t be long before we’ve got Hitler did nothing wrong posts from the right. Outright wishing we lost WW2 is it?

 

[MalcSB]

Do we know how much it’s normal people radicalising once here vs Iran sending people specifically? Iran is very tight on ex pats having spoken to some. This seems more like traditional geopolitics than the usual lone wolf self radicalising dickhead we normally see.

Wouldn’t be a problem if they weren’t here. I also wondered if there could have been some Russian influence at play. Whatever the motivation, if there were to be an anti Iranian response it shouldn’t necessarily come as a surprise to anyone but the lefties.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Hard to disagree

Allowing the Holocaust to be completed is preferable how, exactly?

 

[shmmeee]

Allowing the Holocaust to be completed is preferable how, exactly?

At least we wouldn’t have seen gays and lefties and academics being free to be themselves. It’s like Hitler won!

 

[MalcSB]

Fuck off. Jesus won’t be long before we’ve got Hitler did nothing wrong posts from the right. Outright wishing we lost WW2 is it?

Don’t be fucking stupid. Surely even you can’t think the cenotaph surrounded by plastic fencing is a good look. I would prefer a number of SAS located strategically to provide protection.

The war was won but the battle was lost. Created the conditions for multiple countries to pursue and achieve independence despite not having the wherewithal to support that status: including the UK in effect.

Add the development of the USSR and its increasing post war influence.

There are bad apples here, some arrived as such and some may have been radicalised. Does radicalisation lead to grooming gangs? Or is that just behaviour of bad apples who have no respect for host culture and laws? If groups of white men did the same in, say Saudi Arabia, there would be multiple appeals being run in UK media in support of clemency and commuting of their death sentences. So many people seem to not be prepared to respect our laws and customs. If they can’t, they should either not come here in the first place or be fucked off elsewhere. May be some self policing would help.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don’t be fucking stupid. Surely even you can’t think the cenotaph surrounded by plastic fencing is a good look. I would prefer a number of SAS located strategically to provide protection.

The war was won but the battle was lost. Created the conditions for multiple countries to pursue and achieve independence despite not having the wherewithal to support that status: including the UK in effect.

Add the development of the USSR and its increasing post war influence.

There are bad apples here, some arrived as such and some may have been radicalised. Does radicalisation lead to grooming gangs? Or is that just behaviour of bad apples who have no respect for host culture and laws? If groups of white men did the same in, say Saudi Arabia, there would be multiple appeals being run in UK media in support of clemency and commuting of their death sentences. So many people seem to not be prepared to respect our laws and customs. If they can’t, they should either not come here in the first place or be fucked off elsewhere. May be some self policing would help.

Is this now an argument that we shouldn’t have opposed Hitler and that we should have kept the empire going?

 

[ccfctommy]

There are bad apples here, some arrived as such and some may have been radicalised. Does radicalisation lead to grooming gangs? Or is that just behaviour of bad apples who have no respect for host culture and laws? If groups of white men did the same in, say Saudi Arabia, there would be multiple appeals being run in UK media in support of clemency and commuting of their death sentences. So many people seem to not be prepared to respect our laws and customs. If they can’t, they should either not come here in the first place or be fucked off elsewhere. May be some self policing would help.

groups of white men do that over here!

 

[shmmeee]

Don’t be fucking stupid. Surely even you can’t think the cenotaph surrounded by plastic fencing is a good look. I would prefer a number of SAS located strategically to provide protection.

The war was won but the battle was lost. Created the conditions for multiple countries to pursue and achieve independence despite not having the wherewithal to support that status: including the UK in effect.

Add the development of the USSR and its increasing post war influence.

There are bad apples here, some arrived as such and some may have been radicalised. Does radicalisation lead to grooming gangs? Or is that just behaviour of bad apples who have no respect for host culture and laws? If groups of white men did the same in, say Saudi Arabia, there would be multiple appeals being run in UK media in support of clemency and commuting of their death sentences. So many people seem to not be prepared to respect our laws and customs. If they can’t, they should either not come here in the first place or be fucked off elsewhere. May be some self policing would help.

Who exactly are you complaining about? You want to remove all foreigners because of grooming gangs? What is it you’re asking for? The last people to desecrate the centotaph were EDL supporters. Are they not prepared to respect our customs?

It’s just racist ranting at this point.

 

[Grendel]

Is this now an argument that we shouldn’t have opposed Hitler and that we should have kept the empire going?

Clearly not but there is a certain irony that we as the West sold ourselves to another Lucifer to achieve victory

 

[mmttww]

Biggest threat to the freedoms fought for has to be Farage and co. surely?

Bloke literally used to march along with his mates singing Hitler Youth songs.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Clearly not but there is a certain irony that we as the West sold ourselves to another Lucifer to achieve victory

I don’t think we as the West really had a choice in the circumstances. Churchill did of course float ‘Operation Unthinkable’ in the immediate aftermath of the war to invade Soviet-occupied Poland.

Regardless that’s nothing to do with Malc’s post.

 

[SBT]

Don’t be fucking stupid. Surely even you can’t think the cenotaph surrounded by plastic fencing is a good look. I would prefer a number of SAS located strategically to provide protection.

The war was won but the battle was lost. Created the conditions for multiple countries to pursue and achieve independence despite not having the wherewithal to support that status: including the UK in effect.

Add the development of the USSR and its increasing post war influence.

It’s a hotly contested field, but arguing that not only did we not win WW2, but we shouldn’t have even tried to do so, may be the most unhinged shit on this entire forum. Lord knows what your social media diet is, but I would recommend a detox.

 

[Sick Boy]

Biggest threat to the freedoms fought for has to be Farage and co. surely?

Bloke literally used to march along with his mates singing Hitler Youth songs.

How patriotic of him.

 

[shmmeee]

Last week fly tippers, this week Nazi Germany, tune in next week to find out what else right wingers will support if the left comes out against it.

 

[PVA]

The war was won but the battle was lost.