USSR invades Ukraine. (1 Viewer)

[Grendel]

The world also came on the verge of nuclear war more than once and there were proxy wars all over the place.

It really didn't and there are proxy wars now - namely this one.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

It really didn't and there are proxy wars now - namely this one.

It really did

 

[RegTheDonk]

It really did

Presume you are referring to Abel Archer?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Presume you are referring to Abel Archer?

That and the Cuban Missile Crisis are the most well known examples but it was similarly close on other occasions also.

 

[SBT]

The president of peace is ready for WW3

NATO should shoot down Russian planes in its airspace, says Trump | LBC

 

[SBT]

I was assured that it was impossible for Ukraine to win the war?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I was assured that it was impossible for Ukraine to win the war?

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I mean it can’t unless Trump is suddenly willing to give it the means to do so

 

[SBT]

I mean it can’t unless Trump is suddenly willing to give it the means to do so

He seems to say whatever the last person he spoke to wants him to say.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

He seems to say whatever the last person he spoke to wants him to say.

Yep. let him have a phone call with Putin and suddenly Ukraine will be the instigators and full of Nazi's again.

 

[PVA]

Well he hasn't flipped yet, still coming out with the pro Ukraine stuff.

Either, as others have said above, he's just parroting what the last person he spoke to said (ie Zelensky) and will pivot next time he speaks to Putin.

Or, Trump doesn't like backing losers - it's possible he's receiving intelligence that Russia is badly struggling (which it has been for a few months) and can't win the war.

 

[Captain Dart]

Well he hasn't flipped yet, still coming out with the pro Ukraine stuff.

Either, as others have said above, he's just parroting what the last person he spoke to said (ie Zelensky) and will pivot next time he speaks to Putin.

Or, Trump doesn't like backing losers - it's possible he's receiving intelligence that Russia is badly struggling (which it has been for a few months) and can't win the war.

I think it's Trump talking indirectly to Putin saying you need to compromise over your unacceptable demands or this war goes on and on.

Best I can come up with, does that make sense because taking it literally does not.

 

[Sick Boy]

Actions speak louder than words…

 

[PVA]

This is incredibly rare.

Hopefully public opinion is shifting in Russia. There are massive fuel shortages in Russia at the moment - fuel being rationed, people queuing overnight to fill their car up - maybe that kind of thing is having an impact.

Hundreds gather for rare anti-Putin demonstration in St Petersburg singing protest songs: ‘The old man clings to his throne’

Young people sang ‘Swan Lake Collective’ a song by a Russian rapper that was banned by a court

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Sick Boy]

Actions speak louder than words…

 

[mmttww]

the Special Military Operation going to plan, then!

 

[PVA]

the Special Military Operation going to plan, then!

Russia controls less of Ukraine now than it did 3 weeks into the war.

In the last 1,000 days they have gained 1% of Ukraine. At the cost of 1 million casualties.

Just an absurd situation and a staggering loss of life for no gain.

 

[Grendel]

the Special Military Operation going to plan, then!

About as well as Ukraines counter offensive.

 

[PVA]

Ohh haven’t heard the ‘infamous’ counteroffensive mentioned for a while.

Russia’s summer offensive has been an unmitigated disaster. Well, the whole bloody thing has of course.

 

[Grendel]

Ohh haven’t heard the ‘infamous’ counteroffensive mentioned for a while.

Russia’s summer offensive has been an unmitigated disaster. Well, the whole bloody thing has of course.

I'm sure Mr Putin is having sleepless nights over it.

 

[PVA]

I'm sure Mr Putin is having sleepless nights over it.

He probably is over Russia's oil refining capacity being reduced by ~20% along with oil prices tumbling.

 

[mmttww]

About as well as Ukraines counter offensive.

I think a country with a population three times the side of the one it's invading being unable to achieve it's stated aims deserves to have the piss taken out of it. Not sure the smaller country that's holding the line for years on it's own deserves snarky comments about how well it is or isn't doing.

 

[Grendel]

I think a country with a population three times the side of the one it's invading being unable to achieve it's stated aims deserves to have the piss taken out of it. Not sure the smaller country that's holding the line for years on it's own deserves snarky comments about how well it is or isn't doing.

Size really matters everyone

 

[PVA]

Another 'infamous' offensive draws to a close.

Russia's latest big Ukraine offensive gains next to nothing, again​

Hundreds of thousands of Vladimir Putin's troops are losing their lives for barely any land​

In May, Russia launched an enormous offensive aimed at breaking Ukrainian lines. Its furious attacks in the following months set the entire front line ablaze

However, our calculations suggest it has seized just 0.4% of Ukrainian land

Russian forces have achieved no major objectives, with key cities such as Pokrovsk holding the invaders at bay…despite relentless attacks

The offensive has come at an enormous cost: our meta-estimate suggests over 100,000 Russian soldiers have died in the war this year.

100k dead for 0.4% of Ukraine this year. What an absurd waste of human life.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Another 'infamous' offensive draws to a close.





100k dead for 0.4% of Ukraine. What an absurd waste of human life.

What's the source for this?

 

[Sick Boy]

I remember being abused for saying it was a stalemate…

 

[SBT]

What's the source for this?

I think it's The Economist

https://www.economist.com/interactive/europe/2025/10/17/russia-latest-big-ukraine-offensive-gains-next-to-nothing-again

 

[PVA]

Yes the Economist, sorry should have said.

 

[Captain Dart]

Another 'infamous' offensive draws to a close.





100k dead for 0.4% of Ukraine this year. What an absurd waste of human life.

It is a war of attrition, it matters not that the Economist publishes this article what matters is that Ukraine is losing troops too and probably at no less rate that Russia. Ukraine will run out of manpower sooner than Russia, unfortunately it may take a few more years.

 

[Grendel]

What's the source for this?

I think though printed in an article in the economist there is a similar article in politico which states that the deaths are from Ukrainian sources

 

[Grendel]

It is a war of attrition, it matters not that the Economist publishes this article what matters is that Ukraine is losing troops too and probably at no less rate that Russia. Ukraine will run out of manpower sooner than Russia, unfortunately it may take a few more years.

Indeed

Ukraine cannot win against Russia, warns British Field Marshal

Field Marshal Lord Richards tells The Independent’s Sam Kiley that Ukraine has been given false hope by its Western allies and cannot triumph against Russia unless Nato forces join fight

www.independent.co.uk

 

[PVA]

Ukraine is losing troops too and probably at no less rate that Russia.

This is plainly not true.

Ukraine will run out of manpower sooner than Russia

And this is not guaranteed either - hence why Putin is now more willing to end the war than ever before. 100,000 dead for 0.4% of Ukraine is not remotely sustainable.

 

[Captain Dart]

This is plainly not true.



And this is not guaranteed either - hence why Putin is now more willing to end the war than ever before. 100,000 dead for 0.4% of Ukraine is not remotely sustainable.

I didn't realise you had contacts in military intelligence.

 

[Captain Dart]

I think though printed in an article in the economist there is a similar article in politico which states that the deaths are from Ukrainian sources

It will all be propaganda. It always is.

 

[PVA]

I didn't realise you had contacts in military intelligence.

You don't need any to understand that Russia have suffered significantly higher losses than Ukraine.

 

[chiefdave]

US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has said the US government will impose a "substantial pickup" in sanctions against Russia, accusing President Vladimir Putin of not being honest and forthright with Donald Trump.

Putin not being honest and forthright? Find that hard to believe